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RE: The Day I Became An Individualist

Came for the picture of a disturbing childhood memory, stayed for the interesting polit-philosophical article.

I was too young to understand or even fully remember the movie, I just remember all the bunny eyes trapped underground.

I actually have a guy, lets call him Flitsher, who I always remember when I talk about bullying and stuff. It is quite a unique story because he was bullied by us but I still believe he is the asshole in the story:

5th-6th Grade:

Flitsher is someone who won't take social queues, he won't stop talking to you until you clearly tell him: "Flitsher please let me alone, i don't want to talk to you!" Being children such conversations often took a violent turn. One guy got kicked out of our class because he was violent towards Flitsher, the whole class protesting that decision did not help.

Flitsher got violent towards a girl half his size because he was annoyed by her. <--- my first white knight moment and Flitsher got it good.

In 13th/graduation grade:

We are in France with our Math-LK class. The last night we have a small party at the hostel room of mine. Everybody was invited, Flitsher and even the teachers.

At some point I see Flitsher drinking my last 0,677 Heineken bottle that I cooled in the sink. He told me "someone drank my last beer so I will drink yours now" and refused to give my beer back. I grabbed my beer, grabbed him and closed the door behind him with a kick. My teachers where quite shocked and told me I needed to apologize... 30 minutes later Flitsher is talking to me like I am his new best friend...

TL;DR you should always be able to choose who you want to share with and who you want in your "social group". Being friends with everyone under the sun is unrealistic bs that only people that are foreign to the real world would preach.

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I think that this does come down to, will we have choice or will we give it away to the state. Unfortunately the truth of the matter is if most people give it away we will all be forced to play along (or die).

"someone drank my last beer so I will drink yours now"

It was at the moment Flitsher knew ...he fucked up.

I think there is more in between. The freedom of choice is not the same as actual freedom, I sometimes hear that the Americans think that having more than 2 major parties would be a solution, but they couldn't be more wrong. We have 6 parties moving into our next German Parlament (Bundestag) and they all suck. Not sure how it is in down under.

Agree, its the same down here, but I was more referring to, if we go communist or some form of authoritarian government, we will all become best comrades the following day. Any future differing opinions after that, will earn a one way helicopter ride.

I know what you meant but I am in fact a lefty. no communist, no state-socialist and also no anarcho-communist. I am just not convinced that if we get rid of the state everything will be flowers and sunshine.

The state is a tool for elitists to control us, if the state is gone something else will fill that power vacuum and we should really think harder about what that should be.

Some sort of basic code that is implemented for all (to assure NAP ie) and the main political power being small cities and communities would be my solution. If those communities want to live in an communist utopia, capitalist utopia or anything else then that is fine. There should also be a law allowing 1-(wo)man -communities, aka hermits. People who can make their own rules, but also have to supply themselves.

Yes, I can't see how how the government can be completely dissolved, there needs to be something. I think we are largely in agreement (left or right)

the main political power being small cities and communities would be my solution.

This is how I see it too, people in that region can decide for themselves what they want.

The state is a tool for elitists to control us.

So true, none of these discussions can be useful, without acknowledging the hidden power broker. I hate that people consider this "conspiracy theories", to me it is intellectually lazy to think that "elites" would not collude in their own interests. I think more people are aware these days though.

There should also be a law allowing 1-(wo)man -communities, aka hermits. People who can make their own rules, but also have to supply themselves.

Interesting, I have never heard of this (beyond the idea of the sovereign person).

Essentially more thought needs to be put into what it is that will replace the current system. Bearing in mind that nothing can be done, whilst working within the current financial rule system.

Wow, you do actually understand very well where I am coming from. Not much to add. Following you now :D

Thanks, do you post ? I'll check your site out. Just be aware that sometimes I can be prone to frivolity from time to time. Laughter helps me keep sane.

Sure, I post and it tends to be a lot politics and philosophical stuff. Right now I am baffled by the msm supporting Dennis Rodman in his mission to bring peace to NK and Hillary being shamed by CNN, smells like something changed in the landscape.

And don't worry I love political comedy and talking controversial. I am known to be somewhat of a devils advocate, but you know, I will point out flaws that I see in an argumentation, not to expose you, but to make your arguments stronger and I would appreciate to have people do the same with my arguments. And a little banter is always welcome ;).

I am glad to see you here mate as I think you will find some of Louis's content interesting :)

I didn't read your comment of course...

I have several experiences similar yet I was raised to never be aggressive, turn the other cheek kind of behavior. As you know, I am starting to realise that turning the other cheek leads to a lot of violence against people that do not have the resilience or ability to turn the other cheek and it effects them deeply for a long time.

Well, I was quite "physical" as a kid but you know that was just boys being boys, no blood, no broken bones. Well once in Elementary where someone tried to jump on me and I catapulted him off me with both feet... Didn't expect that move to be this powerful, he also wore glasses so he actually bled. I was really sad and sorry because it was just some fun scuffling.

Turning the other cheek was never my thing but I literally did it twice, but the slaps were so soft that I didn't know what to make of them (male, 1 my size , 1 bigger). I know very well how to use my strength and people normally don't fight me seriously because I will not bow down if threatened and show determination. (My how to get rid of bullies 101)

Maybe one note on Flitsher as something redeeming. I played Magic TG with him and liked the competition I had going on with him in math. He was not stupid per se, he just had what you would call low EQ nowadays.

I still love fighting to this very day when it is within boundaries. I never punched anyone in the face, so I am actually too much of a pussy to go to a boxing club :D. I just feel like you get to know people better when you fight them.