Cool post and an important discussion.

Just one note, everyone needs to remember that every solar panel, every battery, and every wind turbine (all "green") requires extensive mining to obtain the input materials. e.g. Fe, Li, etc.

These costs, i.e. the costs associated (both environmental and others) should be factored into just how renewable and how green any form of energy is generated, stored, or transported.

Tough discussions. Cool topic and we need to discuss this more...