RE: 100 DAYS OF STEEM : Day 33 - Tackling Abuse on Steem - Part I - What is Abuse?
Sorry Jaki01, but steemcurator01 aka steemit inc is still abusing people on steem and posting here keeps it near the top. As a developer, I must say it is fun watching steemit committing suicide trying to destroy speech it doesn't like. Their myopic focus as a heavily censored Reddit clone will destroy the chain's true potential.
It is long overdue to move over to hive; Steemit inc and justin Sun don't know what the hell they are doing here. All their real talent left, and notice that all they care about is restricting speech to appease the CCP.
The should have never stolen the restricted stake, they should have never install ransomware on the major exchanges embezzling users Steem to takeover the chain, they never should have used the stolen restricted Steem to kick out the people who knew what they were doing. And you can't say that the old witnesses were in the wrong for many reasons. Most notably, when after Justin Sun condemned it demanding his stolen loot be protected, He did the same exact thing to legitimate Steem users to stop the Steem price from freefalling to 0 and prevent them from investing early in hive with their legitimate private property. Subsequently this led to the theft of a huge amount of Steem, and Justin Sun is silent about funds being super safu. Oh, he isn't just staying silent. That statement that Steem funds were super safu was a criminal act of fraud. The CCP conman, and his agents at steemit inc, needs to be prosecuted and where the statutes permit it-executed.
The biggest abuser on steem is Steemit inc.
... and if someone dares to disagree with certain whales on HIVE, that's an example what may happen (together with the kind wish to "catch the virus"):
Furthermore, on HIVE whales (most of them early miners), 'top witnesses', (former) bid bot owners and 'VIPs' determine how the trending page looks like (full of crypto, blockchain and HIVE related stuff which isn't of interest for people outside of a very small microcosm).
Concerning the equivalent of the 'steemit stake' it seems the influencers mentioned above are just finding ways to satisfy their greed and benefit from it ("I want to get my part of it because I did sooo much for HIVE").
HIVE is centralised in a sense of being an oligarchy where very few persons determine the future direction, for example who gets the huge upvotes and whose proposals are supported (for sure not the ones of new, unknown developers).
Is HIVE worse than STEEM? I didn't say so. Do I wish HIVE to fail? Of course not!
So what do I want? For example:
I suggest you to try to improve HIVE (there is a lot to be improved!) instead to interfere with STEEM (especially as your critics isn't constructive at all).
My reason to use HIVE or STEEM aren't any 'top witnesses' or whales (they may lead their individual wars, argue in their private slacks and circle vote their friends, but in the end it's none of my business as they also don't care about me as well). I am here because of small and middle sized users which are my friends and which I like to support! And I see no single reason not to support users on STEEM as well. Right, many things here can be criticized, but I also observed some encouraging aspects: for example there are many very engaged users who are taking over responsibility, dare to express their opinions, whereas until recently always the same people (again and again) appeared in trendig and dominated the public discussions.
If you want to convince people to use HIVE the best way is to improve ... HIVE, to show the world how good it is ... but not to attack users who have their own valid reasons to stick with STEEM.
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I wasn't attacking you, you are on my friendslist from over the years I believe. I was going after the illicit user steemcurator01 and steemit inc in general. Top keep steem curator from hiding posts to the bottom due to downvoting, the mechanism of responding to the top most appearing comment ensures that steemcurator01 is impotent at tossing the dissent/critics to the bottom. There is more overt censorship going on, including fully hiding users and their post at the condenser api level. Eventually they will do that to all of us.
Justine had a talk with Bernie about a year ago, he supposedly stopped downvoting literally just about anyone. He was behind a lot of pojects at steem, knew there was a lot of potential behind steem, but knew how idiotic the leadership was and the risk of the ninja mined stake. In his own way, He likely was protecting new users and their investments from the incompetent management of Powell and Scott. That is, not to invest in the sinking ship. They have since played the ninja mined card, and you have the same set of retards at the top....and Ned Scott is back.
I rarely use the trending page, I mostly use friend's feed. Steem's front page is really bad though. I think i know a potential solution but the implementation may have to be tailored beyond a proof of concept phase, but not going to help steemit. I'll see who I can try to talk to in hive about it.
I've never observed the, "I want to get my part of it because I did sooo much for HIVE" attitude you speak of.
As far as hive being oligarchical, it isn't a dictatorship that is scaring away anyone who is interested in investing and having a say in governance. Before the justin sun Takeover, only a few people took time to vote. If anything the those hive whales have lesser say now than all the minnows who schooled together to hold off the invasive predator. Witnesses have changed naturally over the years, so replacing witnesses wasn't unheard of. Due to justin Sun causing the minnows to school together, it is now, I would imagine, 4x more difficult for a new hive witness to enter the top 20 in terms of votes and are the witnesses that the community-not the mad dictator-wants.
The old witnesses brought years of knowledge to the chain, and knew the limits inside and out, and potential outside of blogging. Steemit inc just has the same ole retards running it, the true talent left, and they are destroying it internally, while trying to keep it limited to a steemit/blogging box. When your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, don't interfere. So it really is comical to watch the old leadership commit seppuku in terms of western markets. Really the only market that is going to be left for steemit will be the the CCP.
Downvotes aren't erasing an entire account's blog from hivemind, genius.
Y'all Steem-humping necrophiles should learn what a false-equivalence fallacy is so you can figure out how dumb you look when you try it.
Angry? That's what I mean: it's so hard for many people to discuss in a friendly, unemotional way.
For a better discussion: what about to quote the passage to which you are referring?
Which "equivalence" did I talk about, please?
But my question stands: do you really think, attacking people here (with flags/insults), spamming or farming will cause anybody to join HIVE?
The part where you think getting downvoted is equivalent to getting all of your posts censored, your account essentially erased, from front ends courtesy of some censor-happy monkeys pulling the strings of the corpse of Stinc. I thought these guys had a lot of posts? @themarkymark @ausbitbank @gtg Where did they all go?
You mean that part where you think I would think ...? :)
That's why I asked you to quote me!
Then without quote: I think for the average user (who doesn't care at all about wars between millionaires which he doesn't know) the probability is much higher to get flagged permanently by any angry whale than to get his accout blocked or deleted on STEEM.
In his eyes that's nothing else than censorship. It won't help if you explain him "Look, that's no censorship, people can still find your content in a block explorer." That may be right, but he just won't care. He gets no more rewards and cannot see his posts in his preferred interface anymore.
If you want to convince him to join HIVE, to show him that his stay there is more user friendly and rewarding is the better method than flagging or insulting him here on STEEM. Correct? Correct!