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Bernie, bernie, bernie. It's bernie!

For all the new people not knowing where/why this started here is a brief explanation from a Haejin's follower perspective. The post is rather meant to warn his new followers but should still give you an idea.

https://steemit.com/haejin/@robbie222/my-view-on-haejin-an-unbiased-opinion-new-followers-should-read-this-before-investing

Believe it or not ...he is now asking his followers to mute everyone who disagrees with him and started asking for upvotes on steemit again.

Divide y reinarás. Machiavelo

What is going on? Lol

This is a validating comment. From my perspective, it’s incredible how much web traffic these two generate.

It's quite novel watching two internet millionaires duke it out so publicly while reading comments from both camps.

Agreed! This is the best battle I use when taking about the site. It's an ongoing soap opera! I'm eating popcorn as we speak! Also, I'm still not sure what my thoughts are on it. I see from both angles and can safely say, "only on steemit!" Boom!!

bruh

Upvoted with the hope that @ned will see this one, it is really good. PS: all the credits go to @son-of-satire, if you want to upvote it, you can go to his post I have linked in the previous comment.

Yea man that was awesome!!!

this is great :)

hahaha perfect! lol I need comments like this lol

my history teacher did a class on that topic. I slept all the way through it..something about an extinct dinosaur.

what about bacefook?

i love it, this is hilarious:

speaking of which, payouts are done and the most significant, risky and informative post I have ever made was nearly completely ignored by steemit for no stated reason, but im still going to post it here because everyone needs to know and be looking for the next parts of my series so I don't have to explain everything in the world at risk to myself for no reward whatsoever, again:
https://steemit.com/freedom/@mindhawk/privacy-workshop-1

Where can you see that they generated this traffic @ned? They're top trending and we have thousand of people on this site. The view count just seems logical to me. Everybody clicked on this middle finger today just to know what it was about.

Honestly I hope people don't find Steemit that way... Love popcorn, too, but..

Guess who's the one with the red pants? BS!

It doesn't matter who is winning & who is losing. For us ( minnow ) you both are same because it seems like none of you care about us. Have you ever looked at any minnow post & commented on his/her post. Winner are those people who wins hearts & not a fight.

correct me if I am wrong

Hi @swpnl7, poor minnows need Steem Power and rich whales should take care of them.

yeah just write good post and not hate speech no one care about that

woo you too tough, good luck man

ya it looks like you are the one in the black one hahahahah thats how it looks

Your fucking country is divided and you want to tell something about you are the one hiting some guy?
Maybe thats why you are a nice slave over there...
And believe every shit you get told.

The only thing you can do is draw random arrows! And cry.
Sometimes in your comments i can feel your naivety.

@ned can you please tell who is right and who is wrong in between them to clear all steemians

No. He can't. We must figure this out together as a community... @ned has no immediate power in this other than his through his upvote or downvote. However, since he wrote the whitepaper, I imagine he would rather sit back and see if his theories play out. So far, it has come pretty close to what was written though I would have imagined more whales would have joined by now. Maybe one day he will let us know his thoughts on this.
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What's disturbing is the racist cartoons and comments towards us Koreans, go unmoderated.

Who ever told something about koreans? You are just here to reveal your true mind. "I am the victim. Help me. cry cry..."
Thats all you can do.

‘toward us koreans’? Don’t ever try mention about ‘korean’ things on your own business.

Feel free to moderate using your voting power rather than upvoting your own comments to $75.

Or, maybe you could try engaging with your community rather than posting, collecting and just saying "fuck you" to everyone else.

I totally agree with what your saying here :)

Yeah i do not agree with the spamming cartoons but the self voting is crazy. There are also dozens of replies in his blog that provide great additional content but gets zero respect. He also has zero issues with his sheep flagging the crap out of anyone who disagrees with him

Spamming poop cartoons is equally childish.

If their are no real comments anymore, then his posts are worth even less.

Posts with comments > Post without comments

Think it worth it , don't you think so?

I know it is crazy that they get all of that traffic.

If only my post could get a piece of this action, instant whale LOL.

You are a really fun guy to party with aren't you?
BEER
Are you as good looking in person?
POT
Kidding, and doubting you'll actually read this
lol

It's strange but I used to get upset with what this type of thing made steemit look like to the public, but recently I have to disappoint my passionately moral friends, because it doesn't matter what it looks like if it generates interest, does it? Oh and, I just realized I don't think I ever cared what was on trending- I post chapters from my books and I'm killing it! How fucking awesome is that? Doing what I love and the money comes in? So thank you, even if you never read this lol, seriously thank you Ned, this is the best thing to happen to earth since electricity.

Flag wars got me into Steemit, and they keep bringing me back.

Can someone recap the situation, what are they "fighting" about?

Well, it not entirely funny, as this diminishes the credibility of the platform. Potential Steem investors at the sidelines may wonder, where this will lead to. I am a relative newbie, but isn´t this a concern for the future success of Steem, as steemit is the no. 1 usage tool for Steem? Without the dynamics of Steem price getting higher, Steemit usage will not flourish as it could and should be.

Like all technology you can use it for "good" or for "bad" and if you abuse your power, you should be ready to face the consequences. Since I don't know what's going on here, I would like some clarification of this "situation".

It will only be a matter of time before someone richer comes along and silences them both..
In the interests of preserving the platform.
Just a matter of time.

Unfortunately for now, this is a money game and an influence game.
I don't see there ever being a real "winner."

It's true, but people fighting would be far less concerning to me as an investor than why they are fighting. Fighting is just a normal part of social media. If people were too happy and getting along about everything it would signal to me that no one was actually engaged in the platform, and that would be bad long term news. The real issue as an investor is whether or not your investment is going to immediately get devalued from someone draining the pot, and that is most certainly going on.

well the first thing that needs to go is self voting, its beyond stupid.

Both are good guys i like both just not sure what is the reason behind this

I don't know either of these high-rollers but I'm dying to find out what the back story is behind their beef... Someone needs to post a summary of what went down.

Omg no one dare to write any thing about them we are scare of flag from either side both are powerfull guys

Really makes the place feel alive.

It was the first stuff I seen trending when I joined. I was laughing so hard.

I just joined 1 minute ago. I don't know what's going on and I'm not sure if I like it.

Welcome to Steemit. You don't have to like it. You don't have to even pick sides. We are trying to make it better for more people to get rewarded here. One person is getting lots of money from posting the same things over & over all day long.

He doesn't comment back to his followers. He just collects his money & post more things to collect more money from upvotes from his followers. Basically they are giving him their money for nothing in return.

Can anybody do that?

You want to become a Reward Pool Rapist like Haejin?

No, I was just curious. If it is allowed, and people are doing it, what is the problem?
Very few people I have encountered on Steemit have been here for anything other than the money.
If you are here to get paid, why not get as much as you can, as fast as you can?
Seems like the only ones who are but-hurt about this are the ones who didn't take advantage of the same plan. At least, that is how it seems to me. If I am wrong, please explain how and why.

That moment when a comment has more upvotes than all your quality posts together... (cries in corner) hahha

Yeah daily entertainment...never ending!

It seems like I should flag this comment ... (lol) ... "Flag Wars"? - sound great ...

Soooo true!!

I came to steemit to save my soul from being damned by the Blockchain.

Popcorn worthy stuff???? this post now is Popcorn worthy stuff ? #lol

I'm on the edge of my seat waiting to find out what the back story is. Why are these high rollers at each others throats? I bet there's a girl involved. Or they turn out to be long lost brothers and who's going to go nuclear first?

lol , this mind is sick. doctors needed ... #bullshit

sick shit... u are sick AF!

I am guessing that this is gonna be one of the legendary events in steemit history.

Yes Man Thats Right !!!!!

what is this all about?..I just get approval to steemit last night..and found out this morning this post on trending??

why post like this gain so much profit..seriously I still don't understand how everything work..but I guess whoever posting this must be someone famous in steemit world that why even post like this getting so much attention.

I am new to Steemit, will one of you kind fellows please explain this beef to me so I can be in the know lol.

Good Business model they have. Earning your ass off by posting pictures like that... I don't even believe the hate behind it is real. Probably both of them are the same person.

You all should learn what sarcasm is...

This Haejin guy nuts

Havent you two got anything better to do than bitch at each other?

Guys, I understand it's funny and all, but all of this shit damaging the platform... Is there any way to stop it?

yes there is a way to seize him in the bid.

It does make me worry about the stability of the platform.

No way to stop it ... we should just dust-off and nuke the site from orbit ... only way to be sure.

Yes flag every post to 0 of this haejin.
But you all only look. why you dont take your right to vote serious.
Its not a upvote only site.

How is this "damaging"?

Some might say, this site needs some color, character, drama, passion, intrigue, excitement. Personally I'm kinda tired of all the bible quotes, motivational quotes, food pics, press releases and bot traffic. People are messy and emotional and this platform needs more People than Bots.

Baby Let's Dance

"Everybody Mambo"

Lets! 🤣😎🤩🤩💃🏽💃🏼💃🏽

Is there actually a civil war on steemit....?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Is he a real person, a warrior from a karate movie, John McAffe or a bot?

The overdose of charts is unbearable.
Technical support: make update 2018 to @haejin please!

Hallo .... Introduce me @putrasp newcomer in steemit, honestly I'm glad to see you all that's great in steemit, and I really hope to be like you guys. Thank you best regards.

love this!

LMAO!!

Thank you for the upvote! Good karma to you my friend.

lol

lol

Looks like he's ignoring everyone. He ignores us by keep posting a lot of posts daily and try to make money as much as he can. He also ignores his followers and never answer their questions altough they upvoted him and he make a lot of money from them. No respect at all to the community. All he cares is only money.

Their followers do not realize that he make them a pump army. He and his whale friends pick random coins (in many cases shit coins), buy them, then make simple KABOOM posts that similar from one post to another post with his a,b,c,d,e pattern. His followers start to buy the coins, then the price rise and he become a hero. Then he and his whale friends dump the coin, left his followers with great losses and then start looking for new coins. Then repeat and repeat again everyday.

In one of his post, he said he need visibility. I think that's why he work together with ranchorelaxo to upvote his post and make his post visible on trending page. So by doing this, he gets a lot of money from his own upvote, from his followers upvote, and from his pump and dump activities.

I wonder, if he is so good, with hundreds of KABOOM posts, and if his TA are correct, he should be very very rich right now and no need to rape the pool reward everyday to make 'tiny' money. If he is still doing this, it means his TA do not work well, so why should his followers praise him and follow his advice ?

note : I am not haejin's hater or bernie's fans (in fact I don't like bernie's rudeness..... sorry bernie) . Hope this comment will not trouble me :)

Well, for the most part, his followers think he's great because he got them in a period where everything always went up. I think he does have the power to make price changes with his posts for his benefit as well, but his followers might not lose out too much from his dump because the market is probably lifting that coin up anyways. It is definitely a pnd though. He doesn't seem to pick coins with big market caps often. It's always small ones that are easily influenced. Wonder why?

good summary of both Haejin and Bernie..

DRAFT BERNIE FOR THE PEOPLE'S PARTY

I'm still kind of new to steam, but I'm starting to realize a lot of people don't upvote for quality content but to get a good curation reward. That's the case of people upvoting haejin, they want curation rewards, they could care less about the content.

Its all for the money, everywhere, blockchain,etc. is just s gimmick. paid bots, paid votes, whales/programmers helping friends, someone wishes happy new year or a hot pose pic, makes 1000z, but if research for hours on a topic, write a post, u get 0 to a few cents..

Ha, ha,ha thats true.

The steemit crew could probably iterate more to test out different incentives for good content. But... They makin bank so fuck it right? lol

If you are not a hot chick, If you are not a programmer, If you are not a friend or related with a whale, If you dont have a huge following on social media, then you are a looser.. You can never make big bucks on steemit, especially now, as there has been a huge traffic.

Trust me, the day FB starts paying for likes, you will see everyone who hates FB here, will go back there.

I still wonder how some of the alternate media youtubers get the money to travel the world? Is it that the fear mongers pay big buck just like the elites pay CNN?

Facebook wouldn't ever do it. The problem with incentivized social media is that people are fake. It's hard to bring in a large active audience because everyone is incentivized to kiss ass or regurgitate the site's favorable opinion on something. It's not a place people want to go for good discussion, so there will always be a place for sites like reddit or facebook when people want things to be real.

This is totally true - I'm 100% real, and this is mostly annoying to people or offends them ... they want more cat pics, more pics of semi-naked women (or men) ... and more pabulum about how cryptos will take over the universe.

We dont know what FB is planning, but its a great step towards universal income, and makin mark far more rich. However here just made a post regarding this.

Very good point..

Don't forget the Comcast/ MSNBC media whores like lesbian social justice warrior propagandist David Pakman etc bringing their dumbed down minions to flood the space with mainstream brainwashing trash content.

Inb4 everyone just uploads a woman's photo for their profile for upvotes

Exactly. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that first paragraph is about how it goes. If you are a blogger it doesn't matter as much monetarily because it's a hobby you enjoy, money can ruin a good thing if you let it, as long as I don't invest any personal income to build up a false premise it's all good for now here. I stay active where my hobby matters most that's counts the most.

Exactly what you said. But sometimes non sense post becomes viral. So what is the buttom line here? What is more important, the number of upvotes or the value of post?

I think that's just how society is in general (especially here in the US). People can work hard and be passionate about something and get ignored. Make/say something dumb or triggering = all the attention in the world

Its so sad, somebody that somebodhad spent three hours writing a post then get few votes then the other steemian just posted an image has garnered number of votes and comments. What can we do, thats the law of life. ALWAYS HIT THE NAIL.

Imagine, the top steemians here are ok with it.. And they say its proper wealth distribution..

people don't upvote for quality content but to get a good curation reward.

erm.. ¿seriously?

Nonsense I upvote at least 60% curation 40% content. I take offence. :)

Hahaha yeah @penderis!, the offense of having to build a chicken coop every time we visit the trending & hot pages on steemit. }:)

True, there is a possiblilty of someone paying to some chick for posing or programming, etc. and making big bucks.. Also there is a chance of hidden bots specially made by and for whales and programmers.

Both are the cases in question here @veerall. Because clearly none of that 'elite' usually highlighted on the trending page, showing those unnaturally inflated earnings figures on their content there, would be happy having to solve first a challenging puzzle like this below to justify deserve such amount of do$h. }:)

So off topic, but this puzzle is by far the funniest thing I have seen all day!

Rightly so @crystalize. ¿Could you imagine anything more so off topic than have a good laugh while checking the trending page on steemit? }:)

I would have never dreamed it possible, yet it happened! I need to get that puzzle!

Ah great mate! And since in your introduceyourself post you've said that you have a sense of humor. Then, you are actually one of my team. If we were closer geographically. I would lend you my own puzzle to test your eyes sharpness right away. :)

Hahaha.. good one.

Yep this so true. Dunno if the devs care how to design incentives for quality content though.