I have to keep myself from FOMO'ing into Bitcoin trying to catch the bottom, I'm so excited ๐Ÿ‘

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I hardly can contain my excitement! Down to $3000 we go! I'm using all my restraint to keep from FOMO'ing in. Worried? Not at all, my resolve is stronger than ever before.

I told you it was going to get worse

I've been saying we'd be going down still, and $3000 has been a target of mine for a long time now. Now that we're finally almost here, I can hardly contain myself from FOMO'ing in too early! I've been a long-time believer that we had yet to capitulate, and I still think we're not done yet. My current prediction is that $3000 is almost a guarantee.

As I wrote in my last post where I outlined my buying strategy, my buy-in points are roughly:

  • $4300 (this was hit, bought in slightly below)
  • $3700 (deviated from plan and skipped this one, thought the bounce was too weak)
  • $3000-3200
  • $1850-2000
  • $1650
  • $1350
  • $1200

I still don't believe we're going to hit the absolute bottom possible target of $1200 and I actually do think there is a pretty fair chance that $3000 will end up being the bottom. However, I had been anticipating a more negative sentiment by now. More negative, you ask? Yes, truly, even more negative than now. Based on my experiences with the crypto winter of 2014-2015, there's just still too many optimists and people believing that $3000 will be the moment when we reverse the trend and go bullish again. Sadly, if my experiences count for anything, this is not the case. By the time the true bottom is hit there will be almost nobody still looking to buy. Even I myself expect that by that time I will be hard-pressed to actually pull the trigger and put a lot of money into BTC.

And frankly, at $3000 I'm feeling nowhere near the emotion that I just described. Instead, I am anxious to buy BTC at $3000. This has led me to believe that the likelihood of dropping below $3000 is actually bigger than I had first anticipated. To put it quite simply, it would be the thing to finally cause the massive flush-out of weak hands and finally make even the strongest of hands throw in the towel. If we stay above $3000, everybody will be happy and hopeful. But sadly this is rarely the situation in which a bottom forms. Instead, the bottom is where people have given up all hope and despise BTC for everything that it is. It sounds to me that we will need to drop below $3000 in order to reach that sentiment.

Technical-analysis-wise, though, it looks like $3000 is pretty strong support. I don't expect we will fall through it immediately (if we ever do) because of it. A more likely scenario is that we will bounce up significantly from it, because a lot of people like me are waiting on the sidelines for $3000. This bounce will either be the end of the bear market and the beginning of the long and stagnant depression phase (Oh, I didn't tell you yet how 'Depression' is in many ways worse than 'Capitulation', did I? Oh gods... the boredom... just hang around and you'll find out eventually...๐Ÿ˜ˆ) or it will be the dead cat bounce before dropping lower.

If I had to give it odds, I would say there is perhaps a 40-50% chance of $3000 being 'the bottom' and an equally big chance of us dropping below it. Due to this, I plan to accummulate at $3000 as well as keep some ammunition in store in case of further drops to $2000 or to $1200 at the lowest possible point.


It's funny to feel reverse-FOMO like this. Instead of FOMO'ing in at the top, I am FOMO'ing in trying to catch the bottom. Equally as dangerous and perhaps equally as irresponsible - I would not recommend this to anyone who is not completely convinced about the future of BTC. People who are, in other words, 'true hodlers'.

And remember, never invest more than you can afford to lose. I guess you'll know the true meaning of this by now, if you didn't know it from before already. No matter what, it is a gamble, and at these low prices it is probably doubly so.

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Thanks for the post. I like when people write how they invest.
I have been thinking of using SM as a hedge to steem. If I think the price at steem will go down it is better to buy SM-cards and then sell them when steemprice is lower.

SM cards? I'm not sure what those are actually?
I think all altcoins are still at the risk of losing another 50%, unfortunately. Other than something like a stablecoin Bitcoin is the safest bet in crypto I believe, until the market reverses

sm card - steemmonstercards.Not a altcoin...
Because the price of the cards are in USD.
That is why It can be like a hedge

Theoretically you could do that with SBD, but in practice it is too volatile. I like your method, very clever!

I just bought some, but I believe it will go further down... Still have some spare money aside for when it hits rock bottom. Crypto really messed me up this year but weยดre here for the long run

Yes, 2018 was terrible, it reminded me a lot of 2014 :(

I also think there is a fair chance of further downside, but I wouldn't bet on it fully either. I think stepping in in small increments is probably best. Good luck!

Very good post! If I had fiat I would definitely be looking at a $3000ish buy, and possibly $2400 ish too if it drops that low. I would even get a little at $3200 in case 3k is somehow avoided.

Yeah I bought at 3200-ish and decided not to wait until $3000 precisely because of what you wrote. It's not a big difference from $3K in percentages anyway.

Waiting on $3K and below now. Expect it to dead-cat-bounce eventually up to $5K or so, before another drop down that potentially brings us below $3K

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You think that dead cat will jump so high? It's possible I guess (I foresee a lot of people losing money making bad trades if it does!).

Yes absolutely I believe a bounce can go as high as $6K even.
And you are right that this dead cat bounce is going to cost a lot of people a lot of money. Because loads of people (n00bs) will fomo in and herald the coming of the next bull-run. This is why it will go up by quite a lot. The dead cat bounce is the final stage where they get completely rekt though. It will also destroy the last vestiges of people's belief in a recovery, and even moreso than today people will declare Bitcoin dead. It tried to regain it's heights, but topping out at $5-6K it failed to do so and will wither away and die, will be the general gist of the narrative. The truth is that it's simply far too early for any kind of bull run. Zoom out for a better perspective, only the monthly chart really matters when predicting the next bull run. And based on the monthly I think we are only halfway through the pain.

If you look at last crypto winter we bounced sideways between 200-300 for about a year. That's 50% fluctuations, but going nowhere. There's a big chance we will see some of this too.

You can try to profit off of the bounces though, I guess, if you're good enough. I'm fairly convinced that there is nothing to loose by stepping into a dead cat bounce and taking profits at 20+%. Just don't step into it with the plan of stepping out for a small profit.

Honestly I will NOT be really real bullish until we break $10-12K. And everything up until $8.5K is a potential dead cat bounce. For me, the upcoming period isn't so much about timing the start of the next bull run but rather bottom-fishing trying to get btc as cheap as possible. The bull run will inevitably come.
I mean, you could buy during a dead cat bounce and still come out on top if you hodl long enough... there's no real difference compared to buying 'at the bottom' or whatever. Eventually BTC will surpass it when the bull run comes. But psychologically it is a lot harder to buy a dead cat bounce, lose on it and keep hodling, than it is to just buy as cheap as possible and hodl.

Well said. I would love that bull run soon, but realistically I'm thinking maybe three months or so of sideways movement first, and that's after the dead cat.

It's going to go down... Are you going to set stop limits or just going to go with your gut?

Nope, no stop limits. I buy & hold for the long term. Accumulation at every level, basically. I can't 100% predict the bottom but I feel we aren't too far off. I'm okay with further drops - gives me a chance to increase my position further.

Heh... agreed, long term holds... also gets rid of the stress of trading!

I'm okay with further drops - gives me a chance to increase my position further.

Are you tanking the price??!?!!?!

I'm so struggling... I spent a little more than I should have on crypto in the last month... and there's still more bargains to be had... but I should stay on budget... but it's all so delicious.

I actually feel like it's less of a gamble at these prices... I mean sure, it could totally go to zero, and I accept that... but the utility of crypto and Bitcoin is just too hard to ignore. We're so lucky to be in countries with a stable currency, but most of the world actually isn't.. and I really do think that the world needs it.

We are not far from the end of the bear market, that much I think most experts agree on. But that still means a potential 50% loss or so from here, that could take as much as a year to recover from. So keep that in mind

If you want sane advice, then consider that it may be a much better thing to wait for the bottom to show itself and buy 10-20% 'too high' because you missed timing it, rather than jumping all-in into what you think is the bottom and ending up dropping 50% from there still.

But I still know what you mean.. I can't contain myself either. It's been so long waiting on these drops that my fingers are itching to press the buy-button.
So for the time being I am going to satisfy my hunger with small snacks, buying in smaller increments. It sucks but I think in the end it will be a better choice.

And if I end up buying too little... well... that's okay too because it means we'll have gone back up, and after all, that is the end goal ;)
I'm so glad I am already in the market, as opposed to being on the outside trying to wrap my mind around when to buy. In the long run though, and in the grand scheme of things, I'm sure it will end up being the same as tormenting yourself over whether you'd buy BTC at $400 or at $160. Sure it matters, but not as much at the end of it as what it feels like right now.

As long as you're truly convinced about crypto and the projects you've chosen, and are o-kay with losing it all if it goes sour :)

Good luck!! Exciting times :D

Oh... I'm totally okay with losing it all... because I really want the architecture of the financial markets to change. If Bitcoin fails because something better comes along, that's fine... and if Bitcoin fails because the bankers manage to tank it... that's upsetting, but we'll just have to think of something better.

I'm honestly not trying to hit the bottom, I'm just cost-averaging in with a little bit each time I get paid. I don't actually ever want to convert it back to fiat... every little bit I put in now, I will spend it as it is once the technology catches up... so if I put in $100 today, maybe that'll buy me a TV in 3 years... etc.

It's very exciting times... if the bear market continues for a long time, I am perfectly fine with that... that just gives me more time to buy at low prices.

Yes, I have the same attitude. I am not looking to cash out into fiat, I am waiting to spend btc and using it as an actual store of value in the meantime.

But maybe next bubble I may cash some out finally. It will be my third bubble so I feel it would be about time by then ;)

Also, I don't think bitcoin is going to fail. Despite all the fud and bad graphs, there's so frigging much going on in the background it's scary. Every frigging conspiracy-personality already has their paws in it somehow, Bilderberg group, Goldman Sachs-bankers, even friggin' George Soros is in. I think there's too much money going into it, too many huuuuuuge stakeholders, for it to fail. Like you said if it's not bitcoin it'll be something else, but I think it may be bitcoin. 'cause it's the one that's decentralized. And alongside Ethereum, the only one that is exempt from the SEC rulings.

I have my own theory on that btw. I think they can't (sort of) say that BTC/ETH are securities. Because if they did, then they are saying that they aren't money. And if they aren't money, then none of the ICO's raised any funds. So perhaps in order to tackle these ICO's legally they needed to accept BTC/ETH as money legally. I don't know enough about law or the american law system but it feels like one of those legal issues that could be in play.

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Thanks for the tip! I've been using blockfolio since it has all my trade history, it works pretty nice too. I hear better things about an app called Delta though, but I haven't tried it

Two weeks ago I was sure that 3000 was the bottom, but for some reason Im not anymore (shit the fuddddd got me I fear!)... 3000 will surely have a nice spark because a crapload of people have buyorders on there

Yes, I have the same feeling. But I am also aware that around the true bottom, I am supposed to feel like this. So it's no surprise that these emotions surface right now - it could indicate we are very close to the bottom when even the strong hands start feeling unsure?

It's a strange kind of fomo though trying to time the bottom. Kind of like timing the top.. It is probably safer to just patiently wait for the bottom to show itself and then potentially buy in 'too high', but with a lot more certainty of no more downside.

patients is totally key in this one, and having funds ready to move!

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@pandorasbox So I guess that I should wait for the $3000 mark before powering up? Blessings!