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true, that's why they're starting mandatory vaccinations in France next year. And who knows where next. Police states arising like that, we'll soon be living George Orwell's nightmare. It won't change as long as so many are still sleeping and blindly believe what the governments and msm and mainstream medicine feeds them. And about this in Sudan, I thought from the beginning that they were trying to cover up something else. And then blaming it on other innocent kids is just outrageous. They never ever take responsibility. Doctors never get the blame, but when an un-vaccinated child dies, sure as hell they'll be up there to drag the rest of their parents kids out of the house into care. That's called child abuse, but a doctor breaking an infants shoulder to make things easier for himself is just medically justified. It's a sick and twisted world we live in.

We're already living George Orwell's nightmare.

I think so too but it is not to late.

Your mention of 'breaking a shoulder' seems particular. Is there an event you are referring to?

sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant during birth. I used to work with pregnant women a lot and also spoke to them after they had their babies. The number of times I've heard of broken shoulders in their infants after birth is unreal and made me sick. There was one family who didn't notice anything until they got home and the midwife checked the baby. She said it looked like the infants shoulder was broken or something. So they went back to the hospital. CPS came and took the child from them. Only after 2 weeks the doctor admitted it could have happened during birth...They had their baby back, but just imagine the trauma for the baby and parents. And breastfeeding completely messed up. But of course a doctor never gets charged for something like that as they make it seem like it was medically necessary.

That's just horrible. The doctor should be charged, and that couple should sue for malpractice.

I got pretty mad at a doctor once for showing up an hour late to our scheduled c-section wearing golf shoes, and those stupid plaid pants under his white coat. I can't even imagine how I'd have reacted if he'd broken my sons shoulder after putting us through that anxiety so he could finish a round of golf.

It wouldn't have been pretty, but it woulda looked better than his pants.

May I ask why you had a scheduled C-section? Yes, that's outrageous and should show you that lots of doctors don't really care about the people at all. Not considering the feelings of people who are about to go through the most important part of their lives, that's because they lost all their feelings themselves. And they don't call it malpractice if a doctor does it. Then they call it necessity. The people tried to sue both the doctor and the CPS for putting them and their baby through that, but no lawyer will take that on...It happens way more than you think.

Wife was almost 10 months and baby was over 10 pounds

Wasn't gonna come out on his own lol

If that happened to someone with money, lawyers would be lurking in the bushes outside their house. It so happens USA has the best legal system money can buy.

True, unfortunately when it happens to the poor, they have nothing... Did someone actually tell you that the baby wasn't gonna come on his own? Sorry for the questions.

Yes. After the due date came and went, and the wife ballooned, pre-eclampsia, pre-diabetes... we set a date with the doc, to make sure. The inducements to the little tyke to make his appearance were many and varied, and just as widely ignored.

He had to go. His brother needed his womb. ;)

Redirecting blame that's what criminals do.