Note, this is likely because her son's condition has nothing to do with vaccines. I highly suggest everybody read the exchange and decide for themselves on this topic
How dare you try to tell Michelle that her sons injury has nothing to do with vaccines. You weren't there and you wouldn't know.
There are thousands of similar stories. In this case, Michelle took her healthy son to the doctor who proceeded to overdose him on vaccines and a few hours later the child is suffering from neurological damage.
This is not a coincidence - thousands of other mothers have similar stories. May I kindly suggest that you drop it and show some compassion and respect, please!
Only a person that does not understand how the medical profession works would blindly trust medical studies. You appear to be one of them.
Medical schools and curriculum were taken over by the corporations and foundations that funded them in the early 1900's and they've been indoctrinating medical students ever since.
“The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness.” - Dr. Richard Horton, the current editor-in-chief of the Lancet – considered to be one of the most prestigious peer-reviewed medical journals in the world.
“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine” - Dr. Marcia Angell, a physician and longtime Editor in Chief of the New England Medical Journal (NEMJ), which is considered to be one of the most prestigious peer-reviewed medical journals in the world.
“The medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry, not only in terms of the practice of medicine, but also in terms of teaching and research. The academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I think it’s disgraceful.” – Arnold Seymour Relman (1923-2014), Harvard Professor of Medicine and Former Editor-in-Chief of the New England Medical Journal
I know exactly how the medical profession works. It was bought and paid for in the early 1900's by corporations and foundations with vested interests in selling pharma drugs and keeping people sick.
Harvard Professor Relman (amongst others) told us this a long time ago.
“The medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry, not only in terms of the practice of medicine, but also in terms of teaching and research. The academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I think it’s disgraceful.” – Arnold Seymour Relman (1923-2014), Harvard Professor of Medicine and Former Editor-in-Chief of the New England Medical Journal
Norman Dodd (head of the Reece Senate Committee) also told us:
Denial, you can deny reality all day long and make claims seeking to discredit facts, it won't change reality, everyone that reads this exchange will see the truth and your short nauseating fiction.
You aren't going to do very well here on Steemit. You are very arrogant, regardless if you speak the truth or not. Nobody is going to listen to some asshole on the internet for very long.
You keep making claims and thinking that somehow they dismiss the previous claims that are backed up by logic, rhetoric and facts, which demonstrated exactly what you're denying right now with your claim that it's bullshit. You're bullshit itself.
“The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness.” - Dr. Richard Horton, the current editor-in-chief of the Lancet – considered to be one of the most prestigious peer-reviewed medical journals in the world.
Facts, rhetoric and logic.
“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine” - Dr. Marcia Angell, a physician and longtime Editor in Chief of the New England Medical Journal (NEMJ), which is considered to be one of the most prestigious peer-reviewed medical journals in the world.
Facts, rhetoric and logic.
“The medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry, not only in terms of the practice of medicine, but also in terms of teaching and research. The academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I think it’s disgraceful.” – Arnold Seymour Relman (1923-2014), Harvard Professor of Medicine and Former Editor-in-Chief of the New England Medical Journal
If you want scientific papers on the dangers of vaccines there are plenty of those. I've posted a site filled with them. Yes they link to REPUTABLE scientific papers. You can read the science for yourself.
You say not one reputable study supports thousands of mothers who have had vaccine injured children? Either you are ignorant or lying. I can cite several and have done so. I can also provide you with medical professionals with PhDs that are against vaccines.
Science is about questioning, testing and examining new evidence. Those who say "the science is settled" are not practicing science. They are practicing religion, they are practicing faith.
What studies? so it's not a giant conspiracy of people that lied that it was vaccines, it's just a lot of people lying about injuries to their children, right, all who lie about the same thing even though they never meet each other.
There are studies that don't support autism is caused by vaccine? Bullshit.
Don't need to go on a treasure hunt to validate bullshit claims, I can just call bullshit because it's bullshit that all those experiences are bullshit without it being a giant conspiracy.
There are studies that don't support autism is caused by vaccine? Bullshit.
I mean there are, again if you go to the CDC/WHO website and search vaccines they all pop up. Plus you're the one to believe in conspiracy theories here.
Perhaps I should've been more clear in my original post.
I have no doubts that the parents have kids with autism or similar conditions. I do doubt the claim that this autism was brought on by vaccines. This is not because the parents are lying or anything (although in OP's stories there is quite a lot of sketchy events), but because they don't actually understand science or medicine.
Ironically they tend to ignore that there is greater evidence that autism has genetic roots. I believe that if OP was to undergo testing, she would find that she has Asperger's as well.
Well keep making these claims that you have no evidence to back them up with. It's one appeal to authority with another telling me that what people are observing after their kids have went through vaccinations is false is they would see right if they understood science OR medicine.
Yeah, you're not in denial about everyone that reports the negative symptoms after their kids got vaccinated, it has nothing to do with vaccinations because there is no science that proves that.
I too am aware of the numerous studies that have been done on autism in hand with the cdc, and other places, and I don't need to prove anything because I didn't come in here making baseless claims.
Until you can demonstrate that all those people are lying it's a baseless claim, a bullshit claim.
There are a plethora of Strawmen before me, they are not my concern. What matters is can you show us that these are lies, or are you just going to call us names and liars without demonstrating why and how it's true, my skepticism of you is enough to warrant calling me names? Fine, you don't get to decide what the conversation is about anyway: can you prove that those people lied and lie, all of them?
Note, this is likely because her son's condition has nothing to do with vaccines. I highly suggest everybody read the exchange and decide for themselves on this topic
How dare you try to tell Michelle that her sons injury has nothing to do with vaccines. You weren't there and you wouldn't know.
There are thousands of similar stories. In this case, Michelle took her healthy son to the doctor who proceeded to overdose him on vaccines and a few hours later the child is suffering from neurological damage.
This is not a coincidence - thousands of other mothers have similar stories. May I kindly suggest that you drop it and show some compassion and respect, please!
lol, that just shows how unbelievable the story is
And they are all bullshit. Not a single reputable study supports them
Only a person that does not understand how the medical profession works would blindly trust medical studies. You appear to be one of them.
Medical schools and curriculum were taken over by the corporations and foundations that funded them in the early 1900's and they've been indoctrinating medical students ever since.
Look, mom! I posted it again!
You have no understanding of the medical profession and are heading into conspiritard bullshit.
I know exactly how the medical profession works. It was bought and paid for in the early 1900's by corporations and foundations with vested interests in selling pharma drugs and keeping people sick.
Harvard Professor Relman (amongst others) told us this a long time ago.
Norman Dodd (head of the Reece Senate Committee) also told us:
History of Oil & Big Pharma
Except it wasn't. Relman actually would agree with me on vaccines as they are proved objectively. Read a book.
Denial, you can deny reality all day long and make claims seeking to discredit facts, it won't change reality, everyone that reads this exchange will see the truth and your short nauseating fiction.
You aren't going to do very well here on Steemit. You are very arrogant, regardless if you speak the truth or not. Nobody is going to listen to some asshole on the internet for very long.
Plus, anybody that uses some word mashed with tard is probably retarded.
Ad hominem and ignorance again.
Please read something, anything. if you read a Cracker jack box you would be more informed than you are now.
You keep making claims and thinking that somehow they dismiss the previous claims that are backed up by logic, rhetoric and facts, which demonstrated exactly what you're denying right now with your claim that it's bullshit. You're bullshit itself.
Except they aren't lol
“The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness.” - Dr. Richard Horton, the current editor-in-chief of the Lancet – considered to be one of the most prestigious peer-reviewed medical journals in the world.
Facts, rhetoric and logic.
“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine” - Dr. Marcia Angell, a physician and longtime Editor in Chief of the New England Medical Journal (NEMJ), which is considered to be one of the most prestigious peer-reviewed medical journals in the world.
Facts, rhetoric and logic.
“The medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry, not only in terms of the practice of medicine, but also in terms of teaching and research. The academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I think it’s disgraceful.” – Arnold Seymour Relman (1923-2014), Harvard Professor of Medicine and Former Editor-in-Chief of the New England Medical Journal
Facts, rhetoric and logic.
"Conspiritard bullshit"
Now there's a sound argument. It looks to me like you are the one making unsupported and unsupportable claims.
If you want scientific papers on the dangers of vaccines there are plenty of those. I've posted a site filled with them. Yes they link to REPUTABLE scientific papers. You can read the science for yourself.
You say not one reputable study supports thousands of mothers who have had vaccine injured children? Either you are ignorant or lying. I can cite several and have done so. I can also provide you with medical professionals with PhDs that are against vaccines.
Science is about questioning, testing and examining new evidence. Those who say "the science is settled" are not practicing science. They are practicing religion, they are practicing faith.
I think you don't understand this word
I think dismissing evidence before it was even presented makes you the definition of denial.
I'm well aware of what "evidence" he's referring to. It's been repeatedly disproven time and time again.
Aware of something you dismissed it before it was even presented. makes sense.
I think you don't understand ANY words.
Don't feed the troll guys.
Ignorance.
Yeah nothing like a giant conspiracy of mothers trying to bring down the vaccine community by blaming vaccines right?
Lol where did I imply there's a conspiracy? You might be projecting a bit.
I've just stated that anti-vaxxers are really stupid people
That's where you implied conspiracy.
No, that's a fact. Studies don't support these stories, they say the opposite.
What studies? so it's not a giant conspiracy of people that lied that it was vaccines, it's just a lot of people lying about injuries to their children, right, all who lie about the same thing even though they never meet each other.
Similar experiences are bullshit because there isn't a single "reputable" study that supports them? So there are studies that don't support them?
Yes, there are. It has been repeatedly shown that vaccines do not cause autism. Again go to the CDC and WHO
There are studies that don't support autism is caused by vaccine? Bullshit.
Don't need to go on a treasure hunt to validate bullshit claims, I can just call bullshit because it's bullshit that all those experiences are bullshit without it being a giant conspiracy.
I mean there are, again if you go to the CDC/WHO website and search vaccines they all pop up. Plus you're the one to believe in conspiracy theories here.
Perhaps I should've been more clear in my original post.
I have no doubts that the parents have kids with autism or similar conditions. I do doubt the claim that this autism was brought on by vaccines. This is not because the parents are lying or anything (although in OP's stories there is quite a lot of sketchy events), but because they don't actually understand science or medicine.
Ironically they tend to ignore that there is greater evidence that autism has genetic roots. I believe that if OP was to undergo testing, she would find that she has Asperger's as well.
Well keep making these claims that you have no evidence to back them up with. It's one appeal to authority with another telling me that what people are observing after their kids have went through vaccinations is false is they would see right if they understood science OR medicine.
Yeah, you're not in denial about everyone that reports the negative symptoms after their kids got vaccinated, it has nothing to do with vaccinations because there is no science that proves that.
I too am aware of the numerous studies that have been done on autism in hand with the cdc, and other places, and I don't need to prove anything because I didn't come in here making baseless claims.
Until you can demonstrate that all those people are lying it's a baseless claim, a bullshit claim.
There are a plethora of Strawmen before me, they are not my concern. What matters is can you show us that these are lies, or are you just going to call us names and liars without demonstrating why and how it's true, my skepticism of you is enough to warrant calling me names? Fine, you don't get to decide what the conversation is about anyway: can you prove that those people lied and lie, all of them?
Some one should let the vaccine injury court know, they are making payouts to injuries that are unsupported by facts!
Ignorance