follow, follow, upvote, upvote, I've sent you sbd and follow me here's straight from the oven, designed for spam and cent's lover
It does really concerned me since the first time I joined steemit when I encountered spammers already while at the same time people preach about quality content.
I hope and wish, we all could eradicate spammers, and plagiarism from steemit in general.
Yes, but we need to establish what constitutes spam on Steemit, otherwise this could en up becoming a flag war. Don't want a bunch of kids flagging others just because they don't like their music band or some stuff like that.
Yes!!! I joined only very recently, but I was quite disappointed with all this spam posts and comments, bots, "please follow me I followed"s, requests to resteem, etc... If I like anything, I'd comment, upvote and/or resteem.
Even though I don't understand how would making #waronspam trending help this, flagging content will help.
It's too much noise here. You can read either hot/trending posts or get lost. So it's quite discouraging for someone like me, who has only the best intentions but can't really get any audience... My goal was to write about mental health and startups. But it now seems like a waste of time because I won't do it for 10 views and half of it bot or spam anyway. I even tested posting fancy travel photos that usually help, but it didn't help either. So not sure about what to do next... #endrant
milansteskai... You'll find your spot. It's taken me a month to work out that the hot and trending categories aren't my place = and nor are they yours unless bitcoin suddenly crashes, in which case a mental health expert should be able to make a killing and redistribute some of the whales wealth at the same time... It's more luck than judgement if you catch one that interests you as it flies past in the new section... but if you go to the far right menu and try explore, then you can go to the topic of your choice. Read and comment there and you get responses because they are like-minded people who will have a genuine interest in what you say. Plus when you enter a sub-community it's smaller and you get chance to get to know the names, Beyond that I do quickly visit, upvote and comment on genuine introductions, because like you I can remember how important it was to get response at that point. I could have done with your advice the day I discovered that bottymcbotface and Ionlysaymeep were bots... As for the number of views... Forever is long time. If you are writing something that isn't time sensitive then its likely to be accessed far more in the future than during its first week here. It's the folk doing crypto and steemit posts who have to think in terms of the immediate future. Some of their stuff is out of date before they upload it! Best of luck!
Thank you so much @elaine54. I didn't expect such a complex answer and really do appreciate your time spent on writing this. There is still a hope that it's not only bots here :)
ok, best thing to do: write comments like the one you did on mine, on other peoples....find your area of specialty, mental health and startups, and reach out to others, by commenting. I commented a lot and still do, and it's so valuable, because everyone is hungry for getting attention.
The first 3 months are the most difficult in Steemit I think. Check out My Steemit thumb rule for Minnows to keep yourself motivated. BTW I followed you and up-voted a couple of your posts. Keep them coming. Good content is what will save Steemit.
This thread is encouraging. It's difficult not to feel discouraged here. NOTHING happened for 2 months, then BAM, I had a couple of hugely successful posts. So, I churned out some more and I'm back to 5 views and 5 cents. Hooray!
I appreciate the info on commenting and drilling down to the topics outlined by @elain54. I think this will really help me push through. Thanks all who commented on this.
Now about this horrible spam problem...#waronspam!
In this post in my replies I tell Stella I have been on my page 3 weeks deciding to call out spammers, just like today/tonite again.... and they are offended LOL, even when I always go to their comments tab and provide spammy screenshots of their crap
Oh my God, I know!! I had one spammer go off on me for two paragraphs. In that one's case they've been commenting but not voting, which is an insidious type of spamming since this person actually leaves decent comments, but what they're doing is fishing for comment upvotes.
I have 2 of those today at least I caught on my blog and addressed it right to them, I am being more critical here now.
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We Family here!!!
Thanks, honestly.......this is a perfect example of why Steemit and blockchains were designed -- to help people like I say in the post I just put up to help someone who is burying her dad.
Pls. check that post and vote/resteem to help if you can.
I do miss you and your name is one of my fav. to see. Thank you for engaging me today
Hi Barry! I am putting together a waronspam post, but once it's done I will most definitely visit your blog :) I might spam it with my anti spam post too lol. In the future, if you have a link you really want me to see, drop it in a comment to me. You're a friend Barry, I would not consider that spamming.
I understand, I actually had another one just like him, but when I explained that they are going to do more damage to their accounts by not voting then they ever would by bringing their voting power down they changed their practices which was nice to see. I definitely prefer giving them a chance before flagging.
3 weeks ago, I joined in on my page, on all the spammy mcspammersons and doing it again today and then I am told to not speak to them that way, on MY page LOL.
I never say anything til I usually look on their comments tab and take a screenshot for them of their pasted spammy crap.
It’s good to know I have not been fighting this war on the evil spam on my own. I’ve even written about it this week calling out those who are in flag wars with no good reason and pointing out all the things they could be flagging or fighting on this platform instead. Why punish those trying to create community and have a positive impact when they could take out the spammers, scammers, and exploiters with their power they wield.
I have even called out spammers before and they swear back at me. I am glad to see some more powerful people here have finally had enough of these people. They are not here to make Steemit great or improve it. They just want rob it, stab it, and run away late at night in the shadow of darkness to escape with what little they got away with.
I’ll try and come up with sometime this week to make a blog with your hashtag as I would love to see more people get onboard with these efforts. Thank you for helping the community out in this way!
I have just posted a reply to this post, but it is really far down. Since I would really like your opinion about a question I have, please do read it. And this goes for anyone who is actively trying to stop spam and is using flags to achieve their goal.
Can I be a spambassador? I've been fishing some of the blatant stuff by repeat offenders. With others I'll give them a chance to redeem themselves. We have to set the precedent that we won't put up with it
yes, Steve, let's be Spambassadors! I have a Steemicide Hotline episode brewing! Do you want to be in my video?
let us work on badges, uniforms and an official code of conduct......how about a white paper too?
Spam-Free Ambassadorship
A lot of this spam is made to earn money from comments.. don't people realize that by commenting with "thanks, great post!" 30 sec after the post is made is making them a flag target rather than an upvote one since it is obvious they didn't even read the post..
The problem is you can't read a long post in 20 sec.. or watch a 5 minute video in half a minute. So commenting before you even started or finished the post saying how great it is isn't really alright.
The war on spam really boils down to comments, IMHO.
If you think a person writes spam posts, don't follow them, and don't like their posts. They won't trend and they won't make any Steem, so eventually, they go away. This is the beauty of Steemit.
However, when a person comments just for the spam of it, that is a problem. Identifying those who do with the hashtag, #WarOnSpam, is a brilliant idea and I wholeheartedly support @stellabelle in her efforts.
Thank you @stellabelle for the initiative. My suggestion, someone needs to put a check on the Introduce yourself tag to begin with. There are users or bots who will just spam on new joinees introduction posts with the soul purpose of gaining followers. "Welcome, enjoy your time here, I will follow you, you also follow me" you can see multiple posts like these by two users I have noticed ( @khunfarang & @khunpoom ), there are others too but these are legendary when it comes to spamming. I did mention these users on thecryptofiend post as well. If you want to experience this yourself, write a post, maybe with the war on spam gif and tag it as "introduceyourself" they will pop write up !! I'm a newbie but all in for this fight, would need support from veterans like you. Cheers.
Here are some fun facts about one of our Wallet Spammers...
Also about the 16,261 followers:
So there's effectively only about 4k-6k accounts where a resteem would be viewed.
Looking at the 6,091 accounts with Reputation above 40.0, since these are going to be the people who most users want to attract..
Of the 2,009 Accounts w/300 or more followers w/Reputation Above 40.0:
These are just some summary items that might be interesting or worth considering!
Crazy stuff! Great work by the way!
Thanks! I thought it would be interesting to share :)
Wow brutal!
Yeah.. when you take a closer look, the "9,000+" Followers that you're getting exposure to aren't exactly worth the 2 SBD.
follow, follow, upvote, upvote, I've sent you sbd and follow me here's straight from the oven, designed for spam and cent's lover
It does really concerned me since the first time I joined steemit when I encountered spammers already while at the same time people preach about quality content.
I hope and wish, we all could eradicate spammers, and plagiarism from steemit in general.
Yes, your caring is what is needed. Thank you.
Yes, but we need to establish what constitutes spam on Steemit, otherwise this could en up becoming a flag war. Don't want a bunch of kids flagging others just because they don't like their music band or some stuff like that.
That's a point right there @galactic123 we need to set out a thing as to what classified as SPAM
you're welcome :)
Yes!!! I joined only very recently, but I was quite disappointed with all this spam posts and comments, bots, "please follow me I followed"s, requests to resteem, etc... If I like anything, I'd comment, upvote and/or resteem.
Even though I don't understand how would making #waronspam trending help this, flagging content will help.
It's too much noise here. You can read either hot/trending posts or get lost. So it's quite discouraging for someone like me, who has only the best intentions but can't really get any audience... My goal was to write about mental health and startups. But it now seems like a waste of time because I won't do it for 10 views and half of it bot or spam anyway. I even tested posting fancy travel photos that usually help, but it didn't help either. So not sure about what to do next... #endrant
milansteskai... You'll find your spot. It's taken me a month to work out that the hot and trending categories aren't my place = and nor are they yours unless bitcoin suddenly crashes, in which case a mental health expert should be able to make a killing and redistribute some of the whales wealth at the same time... It's more luck than judgement if you catch one that interests you as it flies past in the new section... but if you go to the far right menu and try explore, then you can go to the topic of your choice. Read and comment there and you get responses because they are like-minded people who will have a genuine interest in what you say. Plus when you enter a sub-community it's smaller and you get chance to get to know the names, Beyond that I do quickly visit, upvote and comment on genuine introductions, because like you I can remember how important it was to get response at that point. I could have done with your advice the day I discovered that bottymcbotface and Ionlysaymeep were bots... As for the number of views... Forever is long time. If you are writing something that isn't time sensitive then its likely to be accessed far more in the future than during its first week here. It's the folk doing crypto and steemit posts who have to think in terms of the immediate future. Some of their stuff is out of date before they upload it! Best of luck!
Thank you so much @elaine54. I didn't expect such a complex answer and really do appreciate your time spent on writing this. There is still a hope that it's not only bots here :)
Haha... yes I've been slightly disturbed by the number that have appeared since I've been here
ok, best thing to do: write comments like the one you did on mine, on other peoples....find your area of specialty, mental health and startups, and reach out to others, by commenting. I commented a lot and still do, and it's so valuable, because everyone is hungry for getting attention.
So simple and so true :) Maybe an encouragement like this, from time to time, is what helps. Thanks!
The first 3 months are the most difficult in Steemit I think. Check out My Steemit thumb rule for Minnows to keep yourself motivated. BTW I followed you and up-voted a couple of your posts. Keep them coming. Good content is what will save Steemit.
Thank you @gokulnk! I've bookmarked it and will read it this weekend.
This thread is encouraging. It's difficult not to feel discouraged here. NOTHING happened for 2 months, then BAM, I had a couple of hugely successful posts. So, I churned out some more and I'm back to 5 views and 5 cents. Hooray!
I appreciate the info on commenting and drilling down to the topics outlined by @elain54. I think this will really help me push through. Thanks all who commented on this.
Now about this horrible spam problem...#waronspam!
It does have to be stopped. Its annoying as feckity!
nice post
ho ho!
I do love this a whole lot.
STILL.
Its my favourite one :O)
In this post in my replies I tell Stella I have been on my page 3 weeks deciding to call out spammers, just like today/tonite again.... and they are offended LOL, even when I always go to their comments tab and provide spammy screenshots of their crap
Oh my God, I know!! I had one spammer go off on me for two paragraphs. In that one's case they've been commenting but not voting, which is an insidious type of spamming since this person actually leaves decent comments, but what they're doing is fishing for comment upvotes.
Good to see you!
Was it that Roy guy?
I have 2 of those today at least I caught on my blog and addressed it right to them, I am being more critical here now.
--
We Family here!!!
Thanks, honestly.......this is a perfect example of why Steemit and blockchains were designed -- to help people like I say in the post I just put up to help someone who is burying her dad.
Pls. check that post and vote/resteem to help if you can.
I do miss you and your name is one of my fav. to see. Thank you for engaging me today
LOL
Hi Barry! I am putting together a waronspam post, but once it's done I will most definitely visit your blog :) I might spam it with my anti spam post too lol. In the future, if you have a link you really want me to see, drop it in a comment to me. You're a friend Barry, I would not consider that spamming.
I am keen to see this war on spam post!
He is on my page and I have been enabling him, I feel bad.
I understand, I actually had another one just like him, but when I explained that they are going to do more damage to their accounts by not voting then they ever would by bringing their voting power down they changed their practices which was nice to see. I definitely prefer giving them a chance before flagging.
ha ha
3 weeks ago, I joined in on my page, on all the spammy mcspammersons and doing it again today and then I am told to not speak to them that way, on MY page LOL.
I never say anything til I usually look on their comments tab and take a screenshot for them of their pasted spammy crap.
#WarOnSpam
oh priceless GIF
Hehe, Cheers!
It’s good to know I have not been fighting this war on the evil spam on my own. I’ve even written about it this week calling out those who are in flag wars with no good reason and pointing out all the things they could be flagging or fighting on this platform instead. Why punish those trying to create community and have a positive impact when they could take out the spammers, scammers, and exploiters with their power they wield.
I have even called out spammers before and they swear back at me. I am glad to see some more powerful people here have finally had enough of these people. They are not here to make Steemit great or improve it. They just want rob it, stab it, and run away late at night in the shadow of darkness to escape with what little they got away with.
I’ll try and come up with sometime this week to make a blog with your hashtag as I would love to see more people get onboard with these efforts. Thank you for helping the community out in this way!
I've just had enough of it. If we make it a trending, profitable tag.....then.....maybe it will have some effect.
consider me in the front line!
I won't flag but I'd be blatant to anyone going around copy pasting irrelevant comments on my page, too
ok get those waronspam posts generating!
I started here (not promoting) but I guess my approach was too light.
By the way, I took your advice and have used #waronspam on a copy pasted post, I just found. If more than two people agree with me, then let me know, I too will flag it.
https://steemit.com/news/@nancie/here-s-how-the-bitcoin-price-reaches-usd100-000-by-2021
Hopefully, if everyone joins hands, maybe we can make a dent in spam posts.
I have just posted a reply to this post, but it is really far down. Since I would really like your opinion about a question I have, please do read it. And this goes for anyone who is actively trying to stop spam and is using flags to achieve their goal.
Can I be a spambassador? I've been fishing some of the blatant stuff by repeat offenders. With others I'll give them a chance to redeem themselves. We have to set the precedent that we won't put up with it
yes, Steve, let's be Spambassadors! I have a Steemicide Hotline episode brewing! Do you want to be in my video?
let us work on badges, uniforms and an official code of conduct......how about a white paper too?
Spam-Free Ambassadorship
I'd be honoured to be in your video. I can do all my own stunts ;)
I should know by now to check what my phone actually thought I typed. Just noticed this made no sense before
One of the best ideas I've read so far. Maybe a good reason to set up a Steemit Spambassasors Program (SPP)?
A lot of this spam is made to earn money from comments.. don't people realize that by commenting with "thanks, great post!" 30 sec after the post is made is making them a flag target rather than an upvote one since it is obvious they didn't even read the post..
Could you explain this a Bit more? Whats the probleme with early comments?
The problem is you can't read a long post in 20 sec.. or watch a 5 minute video in half a minute. So commenting before you even started or finished the post saying how great it is isn't really alright.
The war on spam really boils down to comments, IMHO.
If you think a person writes spam posts, don't follow them, and don't like their posts. They won't trend and they won't make any Steem, so eventually, they go away. This is the beauty of Steemit.
However, when a person comments just for the spam of it, that is a problem. Identifying those who do with the hashtag, #WarOnSpam, is a brilliant idea and I wholeheartedly support @stellabelle in her efforts.
I wonder what the spam solution is - between technological and human curation... It can be so overwhelming...
Here's a spam art I made over a decade ago :O
Thank you @stellabelle for the initiative. My suggestion, someone needs to put a check on the Introduce yourself tag to begin with. There are users or bots who will just spam on new joinees introduction posts with the soul purpose of gaining followers. "Welcome, enjoy your time here, I will follow you, you also follow me" you can see multiple posts like these by two users I have noticed ( @khunfarang & @khunpoom ), there are others too but these are legendary when it comes to spamming. I did mention these users on thecryptofiend post as well. If you want to experience this yourself, write a post, maybe with the war on spam gif and tag it as "introduceyourself" they will pop write up !! I'm a newbie but all in for this fight, would need support from veterans like you. Cheers.
A perfect example, posted 25 mins ago although the user selected the wrong tag but these spammers:
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@p3rspectivo/steps-to-earn-money-at-steemit
If the message in wallet was not enough, check this, they created a website http://resteem.com