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RE: A fundamental change to my witness voting behavior
Here is a man who is listening! I know witnesses who want some discussions on this matter, I just don't know where they should be held/directed at?
bringing it to the witness discussion in the Steemit Ramble on May 19th might be a start.
Just checked my calendar and I am indeed free :)
well that's good to know. @shadowspub is the person behind the chat and will be hosting it in the Ramble starting at 11am. She'll be posting about it. If you want to listen to the last two she has them posted on her blog.
I attended the first two, and they run on my network @SteemStarNetwork, but I'll be in Tennessee at a steem meetup there that day, recording my episode of Hots or Shots with Jonny-Clearwater that day. I trust my mid-level, engaged, in-touch, and active witness peers to lead the day, and as usual, I bet we see at best, the typical one or two top 20s show up, because most of them cannot be bothered to care too much about users anymore, and only go on aggroed's elitist clique driven insider's shows where no one will hold them accountable for anything uncomfortable. Because echo chamber.
We would have to write a hardfork and get it accepted by the very people, many of whom, have tons of these dead voters on them....
I see, that is... probably not going to be easy. Let me find some data to present. It may not be as bad as people suggest. Back in a day or three...
I started gathering that data a while back before we began talking more often. It's way out of date now, but I was stuck and seeking some input from @ura-soul on the matter. I still think it's worthy of discussion and research.
My proposal, btw, is only one facet covered, but it's the only one we could feasibly do without fear of sybil solutions around it or other things. And that is to let votes stay, but if a witness is "red dead" (not active) for 90 days, that allows time for tech repairs, billing issue resolution or other reasons to be dead briefly, but at 3 months, votes should be reverted to their owners and removed from dead witnesses. Three months is enough time to say, yep, He's Dead Jim!
Yeah there is that side too, and 3 months doesn't sound unreasonable.
I was wondering about dead voter time limits and criteria. I assume a cast vote (on content) could work, but then we have accounts voting on trails. So maybe comments need to be used? Unless there is a 'last logon' date somewhere?
I'd say it's safe to consider someone a dead witness voter when they didn't change any witness vote for some time, let's say 6 months to a year.
I think it is safe to say there are a few organic voters who don't change their witness votes in 6 months, maybe even 1 year (although a lot fewer).
Witness votes become contracts as once you get so far they become very difficult to change (due to drama and emotion).
2 years, 5 years, 10 years, whatever. The main point is: Contracts with dead people are void.
Yes, it's something that should have been thought about right from the start. But it's not anything that would restrict anyone. Except having to signal that you're still alive once in a while, which can even be automated, nobody keeps you from voting for the same set of/one witness(es) forever.
Is it too much for the platform to ask for some kind of revalidation once in a while for those social contracts, that are the building ground for decentralization? After consideration of the whole community of course, and as unobstrusive as possible.
Most probably the issue is not big enough to press it yet, but think it's necessary to find a way to not have dead people have more say than masses of minnows.
While I agree with you I also think it is hard enough to get people to vote for witnesses in the first place, once you start expiring votes they may never place them again.
I think dead votes is a huge issue and should be addressed sooner than later. But the solutions are not pretty.
I think non-participating witnesses with large for-life votes is equally frustrating.