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RE: Steemchiller goes witness! Let's make Steem safe again ;)

You are making the assumption first the top 20 would actually be foolhardy enough to agree to a softfork after the controversy of one that had fairly unique basis behind it. Secondly the community would not work to vote their butts out after having learned that focused voting can move witnesses up and down.

That's a lot of moving parts to make assumptions on

He had his scheduled meeting, I listened in on it. He had nothing concrete to offer other than vague promises that he thought the situation was going to be all fixed in a few days and then he went apeshit the next day claiming a github PR from someone not in the top 20 and had long been ignored was going to topple him. That greatly reduced his possiblities of buying off any let alone 17.

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I have a feeling that if he'd offered to put these guys on the payroll, he'd have at least a few takers (more than 4, and that's all he'd need).

JSUN wasn't the one trying to CHANGE THE RULES.

He only needed the rules to stay exactly the same.

Maybe you're judging them by your own ethics?

You might be right and some would cave or you might be dead wrong. Either way you're also making an assumption that the community would not get pissed enough at their capitulation to vote them out They might look like it but they are not kings.

Imagine if JSUN had done EXACTLY what the "good guys" did, and ("temporarily") FROZE their "hostile accounts" when he had the chance (when he controlled the top 17).

Don't you think it's a little funny that he DIDN'T DO THAT?

since he had his phony aka sock puppets in the top 20 why would he need to freeze their accounts? What would he gain? Yes, he could have, just begs the question to what end. I realize that SUN is a lunatic with the maturity of a 2 year old but even lunatics can have some intelligence.

What would he gain?

Quite a bit actually. It would have made his "sock-puppet" witnesses PERMANENT and unchallengable.

It also would have "punished" those who targeted his stake by only doing to them what they did first.

With their stake FROZEN, they wouldn't be able to vote or sell any of their tens of thousands of dollars worth of steem.

That would seem to be pretty "significant".

That would only be significant if the HF didn't happen. Had he made the move of freezing their stake, I don't believe it would have changed the outcome other than maybe the HF happening sooner. The only possible outcome that might have been changed would possibly be the exclusion list other than the Steemit ninjamine might not have ended up happening.

Everything else would have unfolded as it has.

The HIVE defectors would still have tens of thousands of dollars worth of steem essentially FROZEN indefinitely.

I think that still qualifies as "significant".

True the freezing of the Steem would have an impact on the individuals while STEEM holds value. They would still have the value in HIVE. So, I guess how significant would depend on which gets and/or holds value. It would not have had any impact on the outcome though, the HF still would have happened.

I do believe you just took the convo full circle back to the exclusion list which is where we started.

I just re-read the post and there are a lot of specifics about how these "excluded accounts" have contributed to the "steem community" over the years.

Some of them have contributed significantly to the community over the years, agreed. Which is why in another comment, in fact more than one comment, I hvae pledged that should Steemchiller decide to post a proposal for him to receive the airdrop I would support it. I'm not a large stakeholder but I'm one of many I've heard and seen state they would support him doing so.

That's somewhat encouraging.