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I believe pay per vote programs are responsible for most of these trash posts moving to the top. Unfortunately it also helps to increase the price of steem because people buy sbd to pay for upvotes which trickles in to steem. I'm still not sure how this will affect the long term outlook of steem, Ive been thinking a lot about this lately. What do you think?

There is too much trash and too much top.

When I go to HOT section, its just a sea of pay per vote posts, it's gotten out of control!

I have no problem with pay per vote, every platform has promotion, it's the paid votes on shit content that makes a profit, that's what is bullshit.

Yes, but it's human nature to make profit, so people are not going to stop pay per upvoting there shit posts as long as its profitable. How can it be stopped?

My proposal is to mark paid upvoted content as "sponsored" or "promoted" prominently, so that other Steemians are not deceived and can distinguish organic from paid content like on other social media platforms. Similar what is already done in the promoted tab but on the trending and hot tab as well.

That's actually a great idea!

That is an awesome idea. Like when I search for content in google. I want the organic content and not the sponsored stuff. I naturally think sponsored content has vested interest and not for my benefit.

hmmm....learning

Question for everyone. And allow me to ask an ignorant question here. If payable bots was taken away here what would actually happen to the platform?

I am sure the content would be better. Not as good as reddit as there is still the vested interest of money. But would a lot of people who have a lot of money staked in steemit leave causing this platform to crash? Like when the Indonesian kicked out all the Chinese (ones with money) it fucked up their economy.

I would really like to hear some thoughts on this one.

Unfortunately it also helps to increase the price of steem

Wait.. isn't that a good thing? :S

I would have to agree with you on that. I love it here, but the steem price is more important.

I will study it as much as possible, hopefully I can be successful as you all 2018 are ready to become more profitable!
I'm sure 2018 will be a lucky day for me ,,, with the help of all of you.

Spam attack. Busted.

And that is why I have voted for you as Witness! Good work!
I love the Starship Trooper Gif!

It is hard for those of us with lower power levels and depleted power but I flagged it as well. Took another dollar off.

And here's .55 cents back!

One thing missing in this post: link to the plagiarist's shit that still needs a good flaggin.

Aside from that - I am happy to say I know you well enough not to doubt your balls to do the right thing.

(Self upvoted for visibility)

I've seen a few people flag whale posts when they are plagiarised and the whale essentially laughs in their face and tells them to 'grow up'. On top of that, the minnow that flags them barely makes a dent in their overall payout, and have left themselves open to a revenge flag from someone with far more power. Despite this I think it is less to do with fear and more to do with the 'whats the point?' feeling you get afterwards when you feel like all your effort was for nothing, even though it was the right thing to do to keep the platform pure.

I used to get really disheartened with people playing the system to their advantage, but doesn't that happen in life as well? As long as it doesn't directly affect me then there's no point in stressing about it because we can't change it unless everyone gets involved, and as someone has already commented most people live in fear of getting revenge flags and are unlikely to take on someone with that high a rating...

Minnows can't bother flagging whales unless they join a co-op like @flagawhale. But we can flag smaller folks.

Exactly right @littlescribe, we all pick our own battles and against bigger bullies we team up. The support is there and the projects working against plagiarism are working. We can simply support them and help bring their attention to any issues we find.

@lewisjfclarke, have you checked out the awesome community at MSP/PAL that I told you about a few months ago? Perhaps they will help bring your mind up a little and help you out the little ditch you see yourself in? I'm just saying with love and doing my best to help a mate without sugar coating with fluffy shit.

I just saw this by pure chance because my rewards said I got a payout for this post. Your reply didn't come up in my 'replies' folder.

I don't remember you talking about this MSP/PAL thing to be honest, and I have no idea what it means (Or a a lot of buzz words that are used on this platform for that matter...) all I know is I remember when I first joined this platform it was a great community who wanted to connect with people. Or maybe I was naive and these people who wanted to connect with me just saw a fresh newbie who would follow their site, and once I did they'd never visit my page again...

Dear Malcolm,

Not many are doing what you are doing or have been doing. I voted you for witness out of respect for your sheer concern regarding abuses. You have actively tried to tackle the issue, many times better than others, and you keep doing it. I appreciate your efforts. With sub 4000 SP, I can deal with smaller cases of abuses only. That I do. This one is for the whales to bring to zero.

I came here from the bot tracker because I just saw that your timing of the bid coincided with mine and the seemingly good vote was ruined. Lol. But I would love to see this post of your trending. We need action. All of us need to protect Steemit from all kinds of abuse. We can't leave it to others.

PS: I reported the abuse case to SmartSteem, as well as resteemed this post to help it reach more eyeballs.

How do I get/make/develop a bot tracker? I know, I'm behind the times. But I'd like to do what you do.

My votes and flags are not worth much but I resteemed this to try and bring more attention to the matter. It seems that people lack the ability to spot plagiarism, even when it's so obvious. They blindly upvote just because there is already a considerable reward on the post, so it must be "worthy".

:)

I'm mostly talking to people who have the ability to remove the votes and save people a lot of voting power.

It seems that people lack the ability to spot plagiarism, even when it's so obvious.

A lot of times it isn't obvious, I mean I know with almost no doubt it is plagiarism, but I got to be able to prove it to take action and that's another story and a huge amount of time.

They blindly upvote just because there is already a considerable reward on the post, so it must be "worthy

That the reason many celebrities here get snowball voting

It really disappoints me to see people reposting and profiting off content that is not their own. Unfortunately, this will lead to the eventual downfall of the Steemit platform if left unattended, as it does not account for the quality of the works that are being capitalized. While some of us actually work to earn, there are others who imitate to earn.

Resteemed

Thank you themarkymark! I think it's great that you are trying to show responsibility for the service that you provide. I see how you could easily just turn away from this and ignore this if you chose to.

I really don't see any problem with the bot voting system, as long as those running the Bots are willing to do as themarkymark is doing. He's really setting a great example of responsible bot management. At the same time, I'm sure there's things that he's missed but at least he's putting forth the effort.

How can we improve upon the plagiarism screening? Seems to me that once something gets flagged a certain number of times, it should automatically place the post on hold for earnings. I'm new here so I don't pretend to know the inner workings of the current system. However, it's blatantly obvious that changes are needed. We definitely don't want an over regulated, highly censored platform. On the other hand, we don't need a platform over run with plagiarist, spammers, and scammers.

It's really a shame that those of us who are striving to create quality original content, lose out to the dishonest members.

What is the process for affecting change here on steemit? The system is flawed if people don't want to waste their power with a downvote.

What is the process for affecting change here on steemit?

Figure that out let me know please.

Being that this is all decentralized I'm sure it isn't easy. In reality there is someone behind the curtain here on steemit. There must be some way to make systematic change here. If not, this place will be over run with garbage and nobody is going to want to go on competing for pennies. The value of steem will be lost and someone will recreate a derivative utilizing the good steemit had and a system to prevent steemit's flaws.

It's just hard for me to see the long-term success of steemit without addressing these serious issues. Anyway, thanks for doing your part.

I consider myself still quite new here (I came off for a few months and am now back) but when I came back only a week or so ago, I have seen so much crap posted. Mostly people plagiarising.

It's disheartening too, because for people like me who post pieces of written work which have taken hours, days, months (even years) and yet there are people here that can lift something off the internet and get rewarded for it.

I'm going to resteem this post too, although I don't have many people following me, every little helps. Just keep doing what you're doing. At least you are trying to make this platform work. Maybe we need more people to call out on those users that plagiarise? Make it known to users that this isn't accepted here? How can others help here too? I mean, if I see a post that is possibly plagiarised... what can I do about it? downvote? Maybe tag someone to look into it? I see a problem where post are just being lost, we only see posts that are curently 'trending'... we need a set place for the rules. First thing you see when you come on.

As a minnow I have bugger all clout here on Steemit, with no idea what I can do other than report plagiarism to SteemCleaners when I see it.


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But clearly whatever has been done so far, the message has not been getting through and the problem has not been resolved if this is still happening!

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Happy to lend what little support I can...

they should be banned, itys kind of illegal, and spammy too for steemit platform. better we keep our selves safe from shits,