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RE: Steem Survey: Should The Posts That Have Used Bidbots Be Moved to the Promoted Tab?
Yes.
The problem is bigger than that though. We need to manually curate again to fix the trending pages. Even if bid-bot-posts where to be excluded from the trending pages, we'd still get tons of articles sitting in trending due to voting trails.
Baby steps... just wanted to get an idea what people are thinking..
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I hear you.
I think that most of the existing users on Steemit ignores the trending page, as we all know it's bogus. However, new people on the other hand, doesn't realize when they arrive the first time, and that is extremely misleading. New users would ultimately write and publish one or two articles and expect tons of rewards, and when they quickly realize that they don't earn more than some dust at best, they will leave. Steemit have a huge user retention problem, which have been ignored for too long, and I'd personally say that false or inaccurate advertising from well-known Steemians and the trending pages are the two biggest reasons for that.
There are some solutions coming watch my latest video part 2.
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To me this is MORE important than the bidding bots. We need active stakeholder curating with both upvotes and downvotes, the rest will take care of its self.
Actually the incentives are misaligned. Moving bidbot posts to Promoted would disincentivize people from using them, since they’d be ignored. Then only the fittest bidbots would even survive, or they’d die off completely....and then we’d have a new void to fill: New Projects for mass adoption that give whales good ROI..
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I don't have an incentive to put them out of business. I remember all too well how it was before them. I want them to stay, just not be so dominating.
Forget about whales curating. Whoever marries mass adoption dApps with good ROI for SP delegation will do well. Scammy bidbots will fall.
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Oh, I am sure our whales will not curate. I, single handedly have gotten users who were posting shit to trending to take it down a notch or two. I leave a friendly note explaining what I like and dislike about the post. I know it doesn't get you a number one spot on an application, but it matters.
Stop acting powerless and use your stake to shape the site. Not just you, but all of the active users.
I am believe me I’m working behind the scenes now
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Yeah. Move the posts that have reached the trending pages with bidbots, make room for a more natural trending page and get people to manually curate again. Seems like easy steps, but I guess we'll see those changes in a year.
I hate to say it but as long as people are making money I don't think any of these things will happen.
It's sad, but you are probably right.
@hitmeasap,
"Great curation" is every bit as important to the blockchain as is "great content creation." They are two sides of the same coin. And "great creation" means "manual creation." There's a place for curation-bots ... in support of manual curators.
@stellabelle's got a point though ... baby steps. One step at a time. Nothing kills manual curation faster than corrupting Hot & Trending. I'm writing an article on it as we speak.
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Bid bots killed the purpose of manual curation. Even newcomers with minimal Steem delegates to bid bots in an attempt to earn passive income. People are lazy in general, and people are looking for shortcuts. That's why they delegate even though they would earn more from manual curation.
People lack knowledge and understanding. They're just focusing on the money.
Agree with you that’s why smarter incentives are needed and worked on now
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