RE: 3 BIG FAT LIES THAT IS BELIEVED AND PREACHED BY MAINSTREAM CHURCHES
Okay, I don't really understand how this is anti-Trinitarian. If Jesus is one in mind, spirit, and love with God, and the bible says God is love, and God is Spirit, how does this go against the idea of Trinity?
Nobody is trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes here. The reason Christians believe in the Trinity is because it makes sense of what Jesus and the New Testament writers say about Him. Also, there's the whole idea of the "Word of God" and the "Angel of God" and "Wisdom of God" all of which are personified in the Old Testament as YHWH.
Jesus said, "If you have seen me you have seen the Father." How can that be interpreted any way other than Jesus claiming to be God? Isn't that why the Jews wanted to stone Him?
Jesus forgives sins, which only God can do(Mark 2:5). Jesus calls Himself "I Am" the name YHWH revealed Himself to Moses as (John 8:58). Jesus said He is the First and the Last, which is a title for YHWH in Isaiah.(rev 1:17, Is 44:6)
I don't see any way around it but to say that Jesus is either who He said He was, God Almighty, or He wasn't. If He was, in what sense could He pray to the Father?
Jesus said that he was the son of God, the Christ. It's much simpler than you realize. I have no desire to argue, I just wish to share the truth with others.
I'm not trying to argue with you, I just asked you to explain your point of view. If you can't, okay then. Have a nice day!
Your pride is your worst enemy. Be honest here, you really don't care about the answers.
No, I really want to know. Also, I'd like to know how you think you know me well enough to know what my worst enemy is.
I've heard some arguments against trinitarianism, but never anything that makes much sense of the things I asked you. If you think that answering my by insulting me is a good way to convince me I'm wrong, I'll let you know it's not. It really makes me more sure that you don't actually have any answers.
To keep on point, ask me a question and I will do my best to answer. I don't like answering many unrelated questions at the same time because it's too hard to make a proper discussion that way.
Okay, well in the interest of keeping on point, could you clarify what it it's you believe about Jesus? Is he God?
No, Jesus is not God. I believe what the Bible teaches alone regarding Jesus. I believe that he is a man, the Son of God, and the Messiah.
Okay, well I think the bible clearly teaches Jesus is God, so is it possible to dispose of the pretension?
If Jesus is just a man, then how were all things made by and through him as stated in John chapter one, and Colossians 1:16.