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RE: 3 BIG FAT LIES THAT IS BELIEVED AND PREACHED BY MAINSTREAM CHURCHES
Jesus said that he was the son of God, the Christ. It's much simpler than you realize. I have no desire to argue, I just wish to share the truth with others.
I'm not trying to argue with you, I just asked you to explain your point of view. If you can't, okay then. Have a nice day!
Your pride is your worst enemy. Be honest here, you really don't care about the answers.
No, I really want to know. Also, I'd like to know how you think you know me well enough to know what my worst enemy is.
I've heard some arguments against trinitarianism, but never anything that makes much sense of the things I asked you. If you think that answering my by insulting me is a good way to convince me I'm wrong, I'll let you know it's not. It really makes me more sure that you don't actually have any answers.
To keep on point, ask me a question and I will do my best to answer. I don't like answering many unrelated questions at the same time because it's too hard to make a proper discussion that way.
Okay, well in the interest of keeping on point, could you clarify what it it's you believe about Jesus? Is he God?
No, Jesus is not God. I believe what the Bible teaches alone regarding Jesus. I believe that he is a man, the Son of God, and the Messiah.
Okay, well I think the bible clearly teaches Jesus is God, so is it possible to dispose of the pretension?
If Jesus is just a man, then how were all things made by and through him as stated in John chapter one, and Colossians 1:16.
I thought that trinitarians agreed that the trinity was a mystery and that it wasn't clearly shown in the Scriptures. Regardless, I'll get to your question.
John 1 doesn't say anything about things being made by Jesus, but rather by the word.
To the point of your question, the key is understanding two words, "of" and "by". All things are of God and by Christ. (1 Corinthians 8:6)
God alone created all things, and yet all things are reconciled to God by Christ. The Creation is made perfect through Christ. God knows the end from the beginning and created all things through the finishing work of His son. Jesus didn't "create", but yet by him(on account of him and through the finishing work of him) were all things created. This is why we are called a new creation in Christ.
You may need to dwell on that for a while. The English makes it tough to get, but the meaning is preserved.