9/11 - Results From An Informal Steemit Survey -Does Steemit Believe The US Government Was Involved?
After 3 days I would like to provide results from the informal survey I carried out on Steemit entitled 9/11 Do You Believe The US Government Was Involved? - An Informal Steemit Survey.
Although this is a discussion about something that happened almost 16 years ago I want to write posts concerning how our world is run today. 9/11 is an important watershed which explains much of what we see around us now. I wanted to know if it was necessary to address the context of 9/11 in my future discussions or if I could skip it.
My question has been well and truly answered by the Steemit community! Thank you!
The Results
To be honest I did not expect many people to become engaged in this discussion - but I am glad they did! I was shocked at how successful this post was and surprisingly it is currently at the top of the trending feed for the tag conspiracy:
The total results after three days are:
Number of commenters who believe the government was involved:
48
Number of commenters who didn't believe the government was involved:
2
Number of comments (including mine) after 3 days:
113
Number of upvotes:
118
96% of Steemians believe that there was some form of US government involvement in the destruction of World Trade Centres 1,2 and 7.
The results are very clear!
Comments Of Mention - Agreeing The Government Was Involved in 9/11:
I want to thank all of the people who commented on my initial post. There was some excellent information contained in the comments and I was able to learn several interesting points.
There were too many excellent comments to mention so I have just chosen three that I liked to list here.
@titusfrost said:
I thought his post linked here is excellent and really worth reading. I have a lot of respect for his research!@techtek and @teamsteem said:
Although I haven't checked this myself I will soon. However I have grown to trust @teamsteem who says they have checked the veracity of this image. Conditioning our minds subliminally happens in all our media. It is very dangerous and is the reason why I don't own or watch a television any more. This is odd and disturbing but happens more than we realise!@anarchospace and @sift666 had several interesting exchanges in the comments but here are two of my favourites:
The spike in put options for stock trading during the attacks is a real smoking gun. Obviously the people who profited in this manner had knowledge of what was going to happen. Nobody was ever prosecuted for this - but they sure did profit! =(
Comments Of Mention - Disagreeing That The Government Was Involved in 9/11:
As the results are so one sided I am sure the majority of participants would like to hear the comments made by people who don't think the government was involved with 9/11.
I would like to thank these two commenters because I know how hard it is to be in the minority of a perspective!
- @mwh930 said:
I have heard opinions written in this type of language many times online, so I was very interested to look into the profile of this Steemian. Here is a screenshot of their blog page:
The first word in this profile page is Zionisim which according to Wikipedia is a political movement created in 1897. The history and circumstances surrounding Zionisim are fascinating and deserve their own post.
Sadly I feel that many Jewish people are lied to as much as the rest of our world - perhaps even more! The political movement of Zionisim clearly benefited from the 9/11 attacks as the US began it's military campaigns in the Middle East.
I have yet to hear a cogent explanation of what Iraq, Libya, Syria and Iran had to do with 9/11!
- @shelbymonster said:
This young person makes the point that if the government of the US really was involved in 9/11 they would not have been able to keep it a secret and somebody would have leaked the truth. On the face of it this is a reasonable assumption.
My feelings about this are that the top-down pyramid of control in the US, along with actors from outside the country were able to profit enormously from this crime and keep it quiet. There is so much evidence now which makes a mockery of the official version - yet no new investigation has been started.
Why Has Nothing Been Done About This?
It is clear that the Steemit community does not believe the nonsensical arguments the "official" narrative sold to us for the causes of 9/11. It is obvious now that I also don't believe this rubbish and I share the viewpoint of the majority in this community.
It is an unusual treat for me to be part of the majority! LOL!
As we know 9/11 was the catalyst for the phoney "War On Terror" which has killed and displaced untold millions across the world. The American people spent trillions of dollars fighting this war and thousands of their youth made the ultimate sacrifice of death during combat. The people also had their money devalued through inflation in the process.
There are clearly some major players who have profited from the untold trillions spent on this phoney war. My heart breaks for the poor people who have had to bear the brunt of the military action. Yet the wars and murder continue!
Why has there not been a new investigation? Why has nobody been to court over this?
I know that Steemit does not represent the majority view point of America but as it grows perhaps this knowledge will spread. We need to prosecute these murderers and looking at who profited is a great place to start! Lets keep educating ourselves and spread this knowledge.
The Jockey believes in You and wants to help! =)
Thank You Steemians!
I wish to extend my sincere thanks to all of those who participated in this informal survey of Steemians! It has been an extremely interesting discussion that I hope continues!
My respectful thanks (in no particular order) for All the comments go to:
@titusfrost, @surfyogi, @nzfxtrader, @anarchospace, @sift666, @creatr, @lost.identity, @terhtek, @teamsteem, @samstonehill, @canadian-coconut, @thejohalfiles, @ausbitbank, @xeldal, @lrock, @hr1, @aomura, @planetmarketers, @cmoljoe, @foxkoit, @granunic0rn, @jinhyui, @doule, @msg768, @tecnosgirl, @daniel82, @neuralink, @zeidlitwhips, @fingersik, @makecents, @sauna, @pagandance, @dado13btc, @drdave, @rollingthunder, @adyrebecca, @hulabugger, @tunnelrat, @johngault, @richard78624, @andrewdaines, @aljrodven, @majajobee, @oxdude, @ailema, @auskiwi, @andre-ager, @josephmcconnell, @mitchiesfoodrace, @caredycatguide, @stillwater, @flatearthvegan, @treetoptennis, @pagandance, @gerben, @garthfreeman, @shelbymonster, @mwh930
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There are scientific facts that the towers couldn't be brought down by the fire caused by the planes.
WTC7 is a third tower which fell on 911 and wasn't even hit by a plane.
It totally collapses in less than 30 seconds and as explain above the official story defy very simple laws of physics anyone can understand with simple thought experiment as the quote above demonstrate.
I've investigated this event for many hundreds of hours. Those 3 towers we're brought down by control demolition.
I've watch many dozens of full length documentaries, lectures, interviews on the subject and read dozens if not hundreds of article on it.
The proofs the 3 towers were brought down by control demolition are there for anyone to see.
Here's one of the best edutainment on the subject.
Here's a much dryer, straight forward lecture on the undeniable proofs the towers were brought down by control demolition.
Here's another good one covering the money aspect of this tragic event. (by @corbettreport )
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I don't think 11/9 was a inside job. Simply because it would be too difficult to keep that a secreet for a goverment than for you to win in Lotto.
I've said there are proofs to the fact that the towers we're brought down by control demolition and provided some sources as first steps of investigating those proofs.
I've also provided direct proofs with the first quote. Even thought this proof is a thought experiment it is a very solid one and if one would fit the real life data onto this exact experiment one would realize this thought experiment reveal the truth, the primary reasons for the towers to fell the way they felt can't be fire and only fit control demolition.
This is all explain in the first 2 video I provided.
What you are writing seems to imply you won't look into these links because you personally believe it would be too difficult for it to be an inside job.
Your beliefs aren't proofs of anything and doesn't and cannot disprove anything.
If something happened to someone we love and for some reasons it got into a court of justice and a judge would end up saying, nah I'm not going to look at your proofs because I have a preconceived belief that goes against the proofs then we'd all be very upset and rightly so.
Your belief is just that a belief. As I already said it doesn't prove or disprove anything nor can it.
As I've said, the undeniable proofs the towers were brought down by control demolition are pretty easy to understand and easy to find.
it wasn't controlled demolition. heat weakens steel. steel doesn't have to melt to be weakened.
heat from the building/fuel fire caused by impact weakened the structure that was already weakened by impact. once one floor fails, the rest collapse.
if you don't believe me, here's an experiment: go take a cinder block, put a Coke can on it, balance another cinder block top of the can. repeat for three stories or so, then drop a cinder block on top. it'll all collapse at once.
WTC7 wasn't hit by an airplane. Office fire cannot significantly weakened steel to the point all the steel beams would fell straight in their own footprint through the path of most resistance.
Heat from the fire affecting the steel beam would have dissipate through the steel beams and wouldn't have weakened them equally everywhere making all steel beams to fall at the same rate all through out the whole building the way they did.
Watch the first 2 video I mention above if you care to learn more about why your assumption are wrong and learn about how they have been proven wrong.
As you can see it's very easy for an office fire to weaken steel.
The whole structures of the 3 towers hold on until point of collapse then all of the steel beam collapsed onto themselves through the path of most resistance like the video demonstrate.
I said, office fire cannot significantly weakened steel to the point all the steel beams would fell straight in their own footprint through the path of most resistance.
Even if the Steel would have been weaken by any amount of %, the way the towers felt straight through the past of most resistance defies the laws of physics if we are to believe the official version.
Your comment in noway refute what I said.
Welcome on Steemit as this seems your very first comment ever, after just receiving your account today.
Also, ignore the fact that on the video, with careful observation, you can clearly see that the center columns collapsed first. They were not damaged by "isolated fires." That building was demolished. Period. Next question please...
wtc 7 was hit by a piece of the other buildings that flew from their collapse.
If that made the building collapse, why did the center columns collapse first?
To melt steel, a basic office fire is far the temperatures required. It would need a metric tonne of thermite on every floor igniting perfectly at the exact same time to have that kind of effect.
How can you be soooo naive !!
What's naive about it?
Not a valid engineering comparison example.
What dropped on TOP of the building to crush it like you say ?
The plane flew into it from the SIDE.
Using your logic is should have fallen sideways.. by a measurable smidgen at least.
Please explain to this lowly test engineer your logic .. im keen :)
what dropped on top was those many floors ABOVE the failing column. dropped all at once, massive impact. buildings aren't designed to withstand that.
it fell mostly level because the support was central. try my experiment, and you'll see that the cinder blocks fall mostly level.
I don't know if you truly believe what your comments on this tread transpire but if you do I have sympathy for you and I recommend you watch the 2 movies above as I had already said.
May people recognize my first comment I made on this tread as true or at least intriguing enough to learn more on the subject.
They could save a lot of time and agony by watching these videos instead:
Oh dear .. armchair engineering alert.
Actually the buildings I have been involved with all got heavily modeled for exactly the physics you describe.
I suggest you read more Physics 101 because what you are saying does not fit with reality and its making you look a little silly.
Be brave and boogie on baby :)
Could you be more specific? I hold a master's in mathematics, and I've aced every physics and engineering class. Bring it.
What the hell are you talking about, @lostinthesauce?
Balance some blocks on some loose drinks tins?
Balance? Just balance?
Have you actually seen photos of the Twin Towers before their controlled demolition?
The strongest, the most dense, the most concentrated network of the thickest steel girders, forming an actual, vast, thick cage around the whole outside of the building, with similar steel interior suport in the core of the building.
With foundations going down 10 floors worth of space underground.
There were no buildings on earth like them, before or during their time or since their demise.
You want to compare that to balancing concrete blocks on drinks cans in a fragile way and then trying to make skittles out of what are already essentially nothing but skittles anyway?
You insult peoples' basic intelligence.
There is one big anaomly in the 'demolition theory - the total lack of debris. - dustification occurred, which is not a result of demolition explosive - and metallic heat damage with more combustible products (newpapers,), next to charred metal parts, left untouched..There are many inconsistencies.
Have you ever seen the dr judy woods presentation ?, re- high energy weapons, and effects?
She is a prof in engineering, I believe
I've heard about some of her stuff and as far as I remember her theory of high energy weapons doesn't make any sense in regard to known laws of physics. Nano-thermite were use or a even more powerful chemical reaction was use to meltdown those steel beams at strategic places all over the building.
Energy weapons whatever that mean doesn't make any sense in term of the energy necessary to accomplish what we have witnessed.
why???
Because air is not a good conductor of energy and it has taken tremendous amount of energy to achieve the collapse we have seen which would never be possible with energy weapons (whatever that mean again). It would defy basics laws of physics.
Even the local fire fighters reported seeing MOLTEN METAL. How the hell is that possible if the official story is true? It isn't.
Don't dismiss what Dr Woods says.
The truth is she was once a temporary insider on some deep state government research projects, though is legally prevented from saying so or admitting this if asked.
You mention traditional physics, which indeed needs to be demarcated as the departure point for likely relevant points to the controlled destruction of the Twin Towers.
The point is, the US governent has literally so much secret technology which is radically departed from traditional physics, a hundred years and more advanced from the latest civilian recognised technology.
But there were also nuclear bombs built underneath the Twin Towers, WTC7 and other WTC towers when they were erected originally. This information was once part of an old, public interest documentary about the WTC (early to mid 70s film?), which has disappeared since 9/11. The nuclear bombs were set up deep underground there most of a half century before 9/11, and maintained over the years since. They had their own secret, off-limits access and maintenace underground railway between the nuclear bombs under a number of the towers.
The purpose of deep undergound nuclear was to make really susbtantial nuclear bombs, whose initial effect (noise, vibration) would be very much hidden when detonated with dense, inbuilt containing material above them. Yet within some time period after detonation, the energy has to escape and it does this into what is connected physically above. A kind of unstoppable conduction of energy. It turns the concrete into dust and quickly eliminates the strength of the steel, making it like a completely inferior material. So we see concrete dustified and steel able to be pulverised mostly also, into small and tiny bits. I believe even steel dust also - a brand new earthly phenomenon. While paper, telephones, computer keyboards are not touched by the kind of energy shockwave.
I do also think there is very likely to be something to Dr Woods' directed energy theories. This was a case of everything being used. The nuclear solution may have been the most major part, I suggest, but possibly too crude to rely on alone, in the most part. There had to be so much more going on.
9/11 saw the very most perfect pre-planned controlled demolitions which have ever taken place on this planet. So perfect were these demolitions that you can even suppose that no more perfectly effected controlled demolitions may probably ever occur again on the face of this earth throughout all time (until technology increasing gravitational pull is let loose)! That's actually not quite hyperbole, I think, but a simple, reasonably obvious statement to me at this point in the 21st Century.
The thermate also was probably scores of years more advanced than anything civilian technicians know of. (No doubt from the evidence thermate was used.) Again - it needed to be a case of using everything relevant available.
It's not a secret anymore and surveys like this prove my point unless your only source of information is government-funded media and newspaper...
You seem to be simple minded. The USA government is doing things against humanity that makes 911 look like childs play. CIA=ISIS=Alqueda=Terror. Indigo Skyfold, Project Bluebeam, MK Ultra. Turn of the brainwash media = MSM and do some heavy out of the box research. Sheep are slaughtered . Baited into fema camps. Never trust government of any kind.
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LOL the government does not have ANY difficulties keeping secrets... None whatsoever. There are Unacknowledge, Speacial-Access Projects (USAPs) that not even the President gets to know about. So you may want to educate yourself on the vastness of government's ability to keep secrets. Like for example, George W Bush was caught with Cocaine before, but did you know that? Nope. Neither did the millions of americans who voted him into office. The ability to censor the news vastly increases your ability to keep secrets.
I love this reply because it is so easy to debunk. The US Government, and governments around the world, protect thousands of facts, millions actually, every single day through compartmentalized intelligence. The government is actually very good at keeping secrets.
The Manhattan Project was kept secret for a long time.
@ziegler There's been several whistleblowers and several former intelligence officers that have come out over the years and said it was a falseflag.
Those who were directly involved at the top obviously cannot speak for fear of ending behind bars or worse. The Main Stream Media was also directly involved, so don't expect them to give themselves up.
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I have heard this argument many times. How about all the projects that were declassified 30 years after and noone knew before that what was going on ?
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I believe that when it comes to things like 9/11, the main obstacle to seeing that things just don't add up in the official investigation, is that already in school we learn to believe in 'authority', obey 'authority' and, to a degree, trust 'authority'. As a result we sometimes actually believe things that are contradicted by what we see with our own eyes.
you ever heard of the Secret service?
wtc 7 was hit by flaming debris from the other collapsing tower, which compromised its structure. subsequently, a fire started by the debris weakened the structure the rest of the way to failure.
The 3 towers cannot have been brought down by the fires caused by the planes or as for WTC7 the office fire.
Check out the first 2 video above to begin understanding those undeniable proofs the building couldn't be brought down the way they did because of the fires.
it wasn't just the fires, it was the fires and the impact damage in all three cases.
Then why did the center columns, undamaged by the debris and isolated fires, the first to collapse?
the center columns were damaged by the impact
@lostinthesauce is being off topic willing or unwillingly.
The columns cannot have fall onto themselves due to the fires like the video are showing.
What he said doesn't disprove what I said. I think most people can understand.
Whether or not @lostinthesauce can understand all of this, I don't know and is out of our control.
what are you talking about, columns falling onto themselves? i never said that.
I know you haven't said that, it's me who said that.
What you are saying implies that according to you the steel beam from the 3 towers have fallen unto themselves or in their own footprint due to the fires in the towers, except simple laws of physics make this impossible.
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WTC-7 was upwind.
Ever heard of inertia?
Watch this series debunking all 9/11 myths:
Thank you for sharing. I haven't seen this video but there are undeniable proofs the 3 towers cannot have been brought down by the fires caused by the planes or as for WTC7 the office fire.
Investigate if you wish so.
By proofs, I presume you don't mean the logical kind.
Not just brought down, pulverized.
Very true.
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If Tower 7 wasn't "pulled", why would the owner say the police said they would pull it? No one ever gives me an answer when this point is brought up. The official story is the conspiracy.
yes always my sore point also, see my post below for your answer
This comment is so on point. Long live crypto. These are the corrupt criminals who create mass hysteria and paranoia to profit from fear. Greedy bankers/politicians who are daylight robbers.
actually - there is one agent
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dieing+911+cia+agent
there are rumours out there that 9/11 was done by the globalists
The media also announced that the tower collapsed before it actually did.
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It's my belief that privately owned central banks have funded both sides of almost every war for the past 300+ years. A government will do anything to win a war, not the least of which is indebting itself to international bankers. This false flag attack is just another way for bankers to manufacture the consent of the people for thier government to go to war, thereby indebting the country to private central bankers.... sad to say but this is just rinse and repeat for them now. :(
I am just going to say what I think , Not a conspiracy, I was there , I lived it, I feared for a loved one ....jmo
Sorry to hear about your traumatic experience.
Fear = No conspiracy
How does this make sense to you?
Where were you exactly?
I remember when I saw the buildings fall that it looked way too much like controlled demolitions, I have seen those before, my mother actually had some posters of a controlled demolition she witnessed before.
TBH I never really dove into the subject, because as soon as a war is started on the basis of such an event, it smells like your standard false flag which happened in history a lot.
Happy to see that most Steemians seem to agree with that assessment. Often we don't realize that the "conspiracies" they are propagating, are actually commonly accepted as facts ;).
I really like how you integrated the discussion you had with other Steemians in your post. Congratz on the high payout, you deserve it.
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It's an awesome film.
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Can anyone please explain to me how exactly "The political movement of Zionisim clearly benefited from the 9/11 attacks".
I read it all the time how jews and zionists did 9/11 but never encountered anything close to being real. Every linked I clicked was either a jews hate site or some testinomies regarding evil jews but without facts and unrelated to 9/11 or how some specific jew benefitted from 9/11. The closest to being factual was the "Dancing Israelis" evidence which is a clip about "israelis dancing" and filming 9/11 as it was happening - but it actually more raises eyes brows with a question about US government involvement that actually proves anything about the Israeli government.
So, some facts please - how Zionists benefitted from 9/11.
the project for the new american century , a document outlining an establishment of a one world government requiring a suitable boogy man was a rewritting of an isralie document a clean break , israel is largly owned by the rothchilds and works for the benifit of a global government and the bankers and control of oil , the other factor was of cause all the isralies arrested on 911 , some with vans filled with exsplosives , some filming and celebrating
regarding celebrating jews - I already mentioned this - they were filming the 911 as it was happening - accroding to the reports. Did you see the film? No? Why don't you ask the question why? Why wouldn't US government expose this material? In any way - there's no proof at all regarding dancing and celebrating. There's an interview with these people on Israeli TV, but withou the audio - just with translation, so is impossible to know what they really say. I tried to find the original in Hebrew - but no luck so far.
While it is quite possible that many globalists are Jews, it has nothing to do with them being Jews but being the 1%. Yes, there are unproportionally many jews in the 1%, but they are still a small minority and most of the one government globalists are non-jews. The state of Israel is populated by mostly poor jews that survived the Holocaust and Arabs: 80% jew majority and 20% Arab minority.
The rich jews that live in US/Europe and all over the world has little to do with Israel - which is pretty much a standard western country with majority of people being debt slaves ruled by a small oligarchy that controls politicians and the media. Jews were used for milennia as the boogey man by many states. Many countries over the history attempted the "final solution" by killing the jews and stealing their wealth. It never solved any issue, just the opposite.
I did see the original video, many years ago. It showed men with cameras filming the attack on the towers atop a white van, and dancing. IIRC, the location they were filming from was somewhere in New Jersey.
I no longer have the video (that was several computer crashes ago =/) and make no attempt to provide you any proof. You may not believe me.
Regardless, I did see it, as well as the segment that shows Building 7 standing behind the journalist who is discussing that it has also fallen. That video is linked above, and absolute proof that Building 7 was demolished, as there was no way to have known it was going to come down except if it was going to be demo'd.
I have pieced together from such evidence as I have seen that Mossad was used to wire the buildings for demolition as part of the operation that Cheney ran.
Secretary Norman Mineta testified that Cheney was receiving information in the bunker they shared by runner every few minutes, and that testimony strongly suggests that Cheney was the mastermind behind the operation.
I am not an antisemite, nor post any antizionist propaganda - although I do take exception to those that call anti-zionism anti-semitism.
The incredible disinfo campaign that has been continually directed at the public by those behind 9/11 includes every kind and stripe of distraction, diversion, and ad hominem ever invented, including many, many comments from those posing as unconvinced truth seekers.
Given the monstrous propaganda effort to sell the official conspiracy theory, I would not expect the USG to advertise Mossad's involvement in the controlled demolition any more than I would expect to see Dick Cheney in a public appearance in a pink tutu and tights announcing his participation in a presentation of Swan Lake.
Jews are not zionists, not Mossad, not banks, nor the IDF. Some Jews are in all those organizations, and some Jews are in organizations opposed to those organizations. 9/11 wasn't about Abrahamic religions, but religious affiliations are often used to divide and conquer, as is glaringly evident in the Middle East today.
Mossad isn't Jews anymore than Kim Dot Com is New Zealand. Please don't conflate the two.
The real reason was a new currency in the works at the twin towers and the banks were also being investigated at the Pentagon.
how about opening your reply with regarding jews with van loads of exsplosives , ill be interested to hear your thooughts on this
Are you questioning the towers were brought down by control demolition? If not then you must conclude the USA were being that control demolition.
I'm not sure why you are questioning whether it benefit Israel. It seems like there is much more at play here then beginning to wonder exactly who it benefited while the truth about how the towers were brought down still remain unknown by most.
There still is a war about currency. A new currency was being developed at the twin towers. The banks were being investigated at the Pentagon. The Federal Reserve and the too big to fail businesses (the council of the Feds) didn't want the currency change to take away their corruption.....
Honestly, it doesn't matter what intelligence agencies were involved. The MIC benefited from it. Our liberties suffered because of it. All the specifics otherwise do not matter as much. I discredit the "Jews did it" garbage too. There are oligarchs with a chess board. They are not all Jewish.
Anyone who actually believes the official story either didn't read it or are complete idiots.
Most people have not do their own research which is the main problem. They just hear stuff from the MSM, government entities, corporations or their friends, but almost none of them do any research themselves to be able to form their own opinion (so instead they parrot the opinion of the person with the most authority as if its the gospel). Sad really...
Thanks for your great analysis skills
Exactly. I wish people would speak more about the planes. A plane can't just be swallowed by concrete and steel. It has to break! These supposed planes go right in and leave nothing behind.
This video pretty much sums it up!!
Published on Feb 15, 2015
Check out this best ever 9/11 technical analysis by architectural and engineering experts, pretty much proves 9/11 is a lie, even to dyed in the wool deniers.
This is truly remarkable.
Just watched the whole video. Makes me wonder what the government is doing now...
Not too hard to figure out...starting wars for personal gain, poisoning people with chemtrails, gmo poisoned foods, insecticides, pesticides that are killing our soils, bailing out failing banks, getiing kickbacks from drug companies that are killing us with their drugs, selling weather control by way of haarp on the stock exchange, lies, coverups ...oh and now mind control by way of technology...Why, mostly greed, power and control, especially population control. A good place to start is by studying their Agenda 21 and 2030...Here is a post I did awhile back that you might want to check out:
https://steemit.com/whalepower/@thethreehugs/agenda-21-and-agenda-2030-what-the-heck-is-going-on
Also check out The New world Order:
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/
The Committee of 300
https://sites.google.com/site/nocancerfoundation/council-of-300
And if you want to know what is going on with The Secret Space Program
The Military Industrial Complex
A good place to hear stories of the Whistleblowers is to watch https://www.gaia.com
Electro Magnetic Frequencies
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaLwcpzmAp9cYPmMdKmhb9g
Artificial Intelligence
Human cloning
Wow, that is quite a response. Thank you so much for all the info. Will take a look.
Yah I do tend to go overboard a bit when I feel passionate about educating people about what is really going on.
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i doubt the gov will go to such lengths to kill 3000 of its own citizens, lets top this madness
Why not? It has staged other false flags that killed exponentially more people in the past.
Do you doubt that various people, some of whom are government employees, conspire to profit from war?
The USG has been proven to have committed false flag attacks on Americans many, many times, at least as early as the Boston Tea Party, which, if you recall, was American Patriots dressed as Indians. That is a classic false flag operation.
'The Government' is not really an individual with singular purpose, but a vast bureaucracy in which various subunits are controlled by administrators that tend to have similar backgrounds, purposes, and associations. These individuals are the ones that do the things you conceive of as 'the government'.
Read Smedley Butler, a WWI General and war hero, who testified that President George H.W. Bush's father, Prescott Bush attempted to recruit him to lead an army on Washington D.C to overthrow the USG and install a fascist dictatorship. Butler wrote 'War is a Racket'.
It's a short read, and details exactly how war profiteers operate, and why the US was involved in WWI.
It is difficult to understand that some people will kill others for profit. It is nonetheless true that it happens. Some of those people have worked for the USG, and some of them ran 9/11.
@ssd213 not 3000, more like millions or even billions..No disrespect intended but please do your research on population control...Here is a link to start with:
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcontrol.shtml
Also, if you have netflix, this fiction movie could very well be our future:
It`s a pretty good one I agree.
Yep, it convinced me!
To be more precise its my top 6 best full length documentary on the subject so that is a pretty golden documentary.
Phew ... I am so glad so many steemians understand 911 was an inside job! - We are coming to an important place in our history, where truth is about to make a comeback! We cannot let our governments mis-represent and lie to us any longer! Knowledge is power... lets use it wisely!
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I'm not surprised at all to be honest. Most people know what we were told that day is a pile of bullshit, the only ones that make it seem like most people believe the official story is the MSM force-feeding the population that idea. Go figure the MSM tries to sway public opinion using lies and deception... it's not like they do that same crap every day of our lives or anything (sarcasm off).
Thanks budz82 - so good things are changing - just 20 years ago the mood was very different, people foolishly believed their politicians much more than now! It's time to sort the world out while we still have some oceans, forests and wildlife to save!
The people need to demand another investigation. All the 911 commission did was cut corners. Building #7 collapsing wasn't even listed in the report. A 48 story building fell in 8 seconds and it wasn't hit by a plane, but they just forgot to put that in there I guess.
More then half the 9/11 commission members (including the head chairman and vice chairman) have openly admitted after the fact that they don't believe the official report that they themselves created, which should be very eye opening to even the most ignorant of 9/11 skeptics.
6/10 of the 9/11 commissioners do not believe the official 9/11 story - evidence we were given was 'far from the truth'
https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@budz82/6-10-of-the-9-11-commissioners-do-not-believe-the-official-9-11-story-evidence-we-were-given-was-far-from-the-truth
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Glad you joined the debate here buddy, we need you.
No investigations can ever solve the problem posed by statism.
People need to make their own investigation and begin to realize statism is the problem and decentralization is its solution.
yeah what people don't realize is that the Judiciary as well as the Police are all controlled by Them (The Secret Societies). At the highest level they're all under masonic oath which involves keeping their mouths shut and covering up for each other. They'll probably concede 9/11 truth only when all those involved are dead or retired to some island outiside US jurisdiction. I don't see George Bush (Skull & Bones and Hathor Pentalpha freemason member) ever spending a day in jail.
Remember the objective. It is to walk away from the current model. Create a new one, walk away from the old one, and make the old one obsolete. You cannot expect the old model to fix itself. It is there for a reason, and it isn't a good one. :)
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WTC7 collapse even announced in advance by the BBC. what a joke!
WTC7 was announced as collapsing by 3 different news agencies prior to its collapse (CNN, NBC and BBC). BBC's pre-collapse announcement is the most popular of the 3, but the truth is NBC was the ones who announced it first that day (over an hour prior to the collapse taking place).
As an interesting sidenote, did you know that WTC7 was to be part of a FEMA exercise the day after 9/11 (Sept 12, 2001) called Tripod II (codenamed "operation treason") which was to simulate a major terrorist attack in NYC, including the theme of building fires and collapses? What are the odds...
And ontop of that did you know that old Larry Silverstein scheduled a meeting on the 88th floor of the North Tower (bottom section of the impact area) which was to take place starting at 8:30am on 9/11, with the rather interesting meeting agenda of "what to do in the event of a terrorist attack"... a meeting which Larry himself called off less then 12 hours prior to the attacks taking place, allowing him to be safely at home that day instead of inside the impact zone of the first attack. Again what are the odds... And to add to it even further both his children who also worked in the upper sections of the North Tower were also both not at work that day, as both them were "running late" (interdependently from each other). I guess they don't call him Lucky Larry for nothing... ya fuckin right...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_operations_and_exercises_on_September_11,_2001
There were a lot more wargames then just those 2 (here is a list of some of the primary ones involved in the operation that day, either directly or indirectly).
9/11: The Primary NORAD Wargames Involved In The 9/11 Black-Op
https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@budz82/9-11-the-primary-norad-wargames-involved-in-the-9-11-black-op
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Well said!
So true. NIST reported that it was one column (#79) which started the global collapse of the building such a fabrication it's hard to believe there have not been many many more engineers and architects to have come out spoken out about it over these years. This entire version of events stands on whether or not there were sheer studs in the design of the building. If there were, and that is what is in the plans, the NIST's story is a complete fabrication. One indication is that they will never release their computer analysis of the collapse (that is the actual calculations/algorithm that they used).
Did you know that NIST is literally owned by a company called MITRE Corp? For those not aware MITRE Corp have direct ties to both NIST as well as Purdue University, which are the 2 main entities involved in selling the official story to the public using (bullshit) computer models.
As a sidenothe another company tied to MITRE Corp is a company called PTECH, a small company which "somehow" got the computer security contract at the Pentagon and FAA prior to the 9/11 attacks. Well coincidently (ya right) on the morning of 9/11 PTECH was pre-programming the Pentagon and FAA computer systems (from 6-8am) with an exercise scenario (part of NORAD Vigilant Guardian) which was bring ran on that morning (from 8-10am) as prep for the switch-over to an annual continuity of government response exercise (USSTRATCOM Global Guardian). Vigilant Guardian was to create the "simulated" emergency (via Amalgam Virgo 01 (drone attacks against tall buildings and the capitol) and Amalgam Virgo 02-1 Red Spins (near-simotanious live fly commercial hijackings)). Basically PTECH was programming the 9/11 operation flight paths into the FAA computers prior to the black op taking place that day (which is why the flight 11 cockpit recordings said to be of Mohammed Atta are timestamped almost 3 hours prior to the 9/11 attacks taking place (timestamped ~6:30am EST that day).
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Great follow-up, Jockey! All conspiracies are birthed from truth or lack of evidence supporting the contrary. In the case of 9/11, we have both.
I was at Ft. Benning, GA when the attack happened, just finishing up BASIC/OSUT training.
When we went to Iraq, we were mostly under the impression that we had to oust Saddam. Interestingly enough, they were going to call it Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL), but changed it to Freedom (OIF).
They love throwing little hints in our face for anyone paying attention, which is why an element of the 9/11 attack (via FEMA Tripod II) was codenamed "Operation Treason" (named by the same man (Jerome Hauer) who managed the creation of the Office of Emergency Managment in WTC7 several years prior), while that the overarching codename for the entire operation as a whole was called Project "New Century" which "coincidentally" ties directly to the Project For A New American Century (PNAC) entities and its infamous document titled "Rebuilding America's Defenses - Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century" which was released 1 year to the day prior to 9/11 (Sept 11, 2000) which stated that a "New Pearl Harbor" style attack would be required to persuade the American public into going along with the wanted PNAC agenda (which called for a massive increase in defense spending and the fighting of several major theater wars in order to re-establish American military dominance).
All just coincidences of course.
Sidenote: Jerome Hauer was a good buddy of then mayor of NYC Rudolph Giuliani, was the man who managed the creation of the FEMA OEM inside WTC7, was the man who hired former head of FBI counterterrorism (the man who hunted Bin Laden for a decade before 9/11) as head of security for the WTC building (started his first day at work on 9/11) who was told to attend a meeting in the Kroll headquarters at the top of the North WTC tower that morning and because of it would be killed in that days attacks (as he would of been one of the main whistleblowers against the official story in the aftermath so they decided to remove him as part of the attack). As an additional interesting sidenote, Jerome Hauer was also scheduled to be at that meeting that morning, but decided not to go, allowing him to survive the attack unharmed. Go figure right?
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vre interesting poins of view! Thanks for this post ;=)
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