Fight Fire With Fire! Then We All Get Burnt!........................Again!
The System is designed to keep us down!
And it 'seems' the only way to rise up and make a change is to fight the system, using their rules, in their back yard. I don’t know about you? but in my eye's, this is just another losing battle that none of us are ever going to win. And let's say that you do 'win', it's still their game.
Fighting A Losing Battle.
I have fought many battles in my life and up until now I was convinced I had won them all, but on reflection all I ever did was fight fire with fire!
I knew School was a joke, but instead of finding my own way of learning I ended up playing cat and mouse with the authorities my whole life and came out the other side with no education whatsoever..........And we all got burnt!
I grew up in foster care and instead of getting my head down and ridding the wave of misfortune, I rebelled in every way possible and made my life even worse than it was beforehand..........And we all got burnt!
I Know I'm not the only one who does this, in fact, I would go as far as to say, that we all do it from time to time when the occasion arises.
Feeding The System!
All we are doing is playing their game, which is designed to make them profit no matter the outcome. If they win, money will be made and if you win, money will have been spent! Either way, Lawyers, Judges, The CPS and every other blood sucking organisation that has been put in place to keep us all down will benefit and we'll be left to foot the bill. As usual.
Defence Is The Best Offence!
I am writing this post because it has become apparent that @familyprotection is growing in strength and numbers, and strength in numbers is going to be our best line of defence against the state kidnappers!
For this reason it makes perfect sense to start building little pockets of protection all over the globe, groups of people who are willing to peacefully defend the rights of every fellow human being that has air in their lungs and CPS at the door.
OK! Smarty Pants! How Do We Make This Happen?
Well to be honest! I don't have all the answers, which is part of the reason why Linda and I started @familyprotection. We want to see an end to the suffering but without a huge online community this would be the mother of all losing battles.
I know that this community has the answer, in fact, I have seen several posts with great answers written in black and white, but without the encouragement and support from the rest of the community then we are not going to solve this HUGE problem any time soon.
Stand Up And Be Heard!
I have decided to set a challenge to the @familyprotection community, I want to hear your best solution to this problem. How do we build a network of people who are willing, ready, and equipped with the knowledge and power to peacefully fend off any attack or knock at the door from the dreaded CPS!
Think outside the box, because Lawyers and family courts are a losing battle and we all know it!
Lets stop trying to win at their game!
Hi @markwhittam. I think a good option for one type of solution might be forming local groups of volunteers. The individuals in these groups could be alerted when a CPS confrontation is going to take place and could show up at the family's house to help.
For example, when a CPS agent is going to a family's home, the volunteer group could be alerted. They could go and document everything with audio and/or video, and take any actions necessary to defend the family. I think that the CPS, and government agencies in general, prefer to target people who they view as powerless, someone unable to fight back. If an entire group of volunteers show up to defend a family, CPS might think twice and back off.
Have you heard of the Cell 411 App? https://getcell411.com/
I'm not saying that @familyprotection use this app in particular, but something similar to this concept could be developed specifically for @familyprotection. Maybe there are some app developers on Steemit who would like to take part in the development of the software.
So that's my idea for one type of solution. If I think of more later, I'll be sure to put it out there.
Keep up the great work.
You are spot on with a local volunteer groups. I've seen this approach here in N. Idaho work very well. (unfortunately not all states and communities will rally into action like N. Idaho but if enough focus was given it may take off like a grassfire to neighboring communities.) We have a group of volunteers that are called court watchers too "Citizens Against Corruption". They simply go in and watch hearings on various cases being heard to watch for red flags of rights violations.
A very recent one, CPS was taking a newborn baby from the hospital. There underlying reason was the parents refused to vaccinate, but of course to make it more legit CPS noted in their files it was because the mother had Cerabal Palsey and could not care for the newborn. Community rallied, brought in church members and all explained there would be helping hands provided for this baby. After 9 days (of no bonding with natural mother) the baby was returned. The people should not have to go to this extent when a family is dealing with a rogue agency like CPS but sometimes we have to do what is right.
We (FP) does need some sort of data base to help us track the work we are doing and a place to correlate the information being gathered. Right now I am drowning in legislative manuevers that are being taken against families rights here in the states. Every state is different and every country as well. Would be great to have a team from the US working together, a team from the UK etc. and the means to bring it all together for the international audience. I see a great amount of work being done by some exceptional people around the world, would be great to utilize these resources to the max.
A steemian just recently was offering some sort of technical help in this area, posted under the FP tag, will see if I can find it. Like you say, there are some extremely talented developers here on the platform that may hold the key.
Hi @vickiebarker, Was it this guy by any chance?
https://steemit.com/familyprotection/@tony.jennings/dealing-with-cps-or-any-other-government-service
No, it wasn't that one. This came in maybe 3 days ago (time seems to not exist here anymore) but it was a great one. I have only a few over 200 tabs open and it was such a good offer I didn't want to lose it so will start looking for it. When I saw it I thought BINGO an answer to this clutter. I honestly don't know how you and Linda keep up with all the FP posts.
Mark, this isn't the one I am looking for but it is one I saved and wanted to get to you. There are some resources coming on board this platform that are going to help FP a great deal. Please review this:
https://steemit.com/steem/@topkpop/help-me-and-help-you-advertise-you-your-blog-for-a-donation-on-my-show
Here it is. 1. A Multipurpose Website Based on a Social Community Engine
https://steemit.com/familyprotection/@eco-alex/solutions-and-ideas-for-the-familyprotection-cause-initiated-by-canadian-coconut-and-markwhittam
Hehe! Oh that's just Alex, he is part of the FP team now =) I didn't miss this one ;)
We needed help!
I think "just Alex" is on to something that is needed. FP is world-wide and many countries operate under different criteria. I am in the US and the process here is a cumbersome one indeed. Each state has a separate constitution. Calif. is gearing up now to put homeschool families on the chopping block. This has been building for some time but in recent light of a "supposed" child endangerment case the wheels are turning fast at the legislature. Would be great to have a way to connect those of us in the US with each other, and I see @article61 could use some help over in the UK. Think "work teams"! :)
Yeah right! It was meant as a lighthearted joke, he is on the team for a reason, and his ideas will be showing up in our community =)
I figured it was a lighthearted joke and look forward to any and all ideas showing up in this community. I hear talk of "communities" being developed by and for Steemit but not sure if those will actually allow us to engage and coordinate like a separate data base would.
Could you please provide me with contact info for your north idaho citizens against corruption group? I have a very nasty problem up there in coeur dalene.
Yes! @steeminganarchy I have been working on something similar, can I send u a very rough white paper?
Needs a lot of work, but the idea is there
Yes! Absolutely. I'd like to have a look at your working paper. Thanks @markwhittam! You can send it to [email protected]
I haven't forgotten! Just trying to make it work! I'll be in touch
Ok man, no worries. I look forward to it.
knowledge is power.
If we are aware , if we know how it happens, and how it can happen again, if we have a plan of actions, and we know all our rights and laws, protecting families and private life, thehn we are ready to fightt
the most cases when families lose kids happen because parents just didn't know what to do and where to run for help.
@familyprotection is solving this very problem now. We all are gathering useful info or tips, real life stories or pieces of advice, which can help families in danger.
@familyprotection is like an encyclopedia for all families with kids!
we can think how to make it even more useful and more developed.
You and Linda have started a great deal!
A very good point!
Thank you @taliakerch
I remember a few years ago in the UK that there were teams of people turning up to prevent bailiffs from turfing people out of their homes. This was all done peacefully, with people filming what was going on and blocking the attempts with varying degrees of success.
These agencies hate publicity and being exposed. A combination of peaceful obstruction combined with filming and sharing who they are and what they are doing across social media could be a start. Families that feel under threat could set up alerts, to have everything witnessed etc.
Of course, it would be best to get it so that many situations never got to this stage by offering layperson legal education to support them in their knowledge.
Another area is in supporting them with their mindset, emotions and confidence etc. I'm just about to start working with someone in the UK who has been a victim of this system for many years and support her to get her life back on track in lots of ways. As part of it, I'm hoping she'll be willing to share her story in the Family Protection blog. She's also said I can write about what we're doing, which I will do soon, once we've started.
I'm working with her for free, as this is an important area for people to get their power back and once I've seen how it pans out, I'm planning to offer this support to other people going through trauma due to the various CPS agencies around the world.
Nice one Sam!
This is great, it never crossed my mind that the CPS are just like bailiffs, and we all know that with the right words, papers and back up even the toughest of bailiffs will back down!
I think it's great the way you help some people out of the kindness of your heart! and I am an avid believer in what goes around, comes around =)
Thank for supporting @familyprotection buddy!
I agree and can vouch for the fact the government agencies hate media publictcy when it comes to wrong doings on their part. If I remember correctly, we do have a top notch reporter in the steemit community. Sorry but I don't remember her name.
I agree that exposure is huge. One of the things that's allowed the whole CPS situation to balloon out of control has been the shame and actual silencing of victims. If people understood the depth to which an innocent person can be railroaded, I think quite a few things might change quickly.
I totally agree with you and think it's great idea. The more exposure by filming and recording what they are doing and sharing it all over social media is a perfect start.
Wtg my friend,. It all starts within our own communities and circle of family and friends.
Great initiative Mark . I actually wrote a post yesterday which ended with several easy ideas for us to take up and do.. Unfortunately a copy n paste glitch ended up with me losing it all.
Now that you have specifically asked for ideas I think ill re-write them and see what you all think.. Some of the things we can do are REALLY simple but can make a difference. The Bottom line in my opinion is that we just have to make a fuss in the right places with enough people.. One SIMPLE example is posting (respectfully) on High Profile twitter accounts(e.g https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi who is Secretary of State for Children and Families in the UK) with comments and questions and concerns..
I look forward to seeing what ideas everyone else has too!
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Yes, Alex!
I agree, lots of small initiatives like these are much more effective than charging in with an army, guns blazing!
We are a small axe, they are the big tree!
Challenge accepted! I'm off to find my thinking cap. Educating people is my own favourite tactic. They may know it doesn't feel right but not many look further than that. Let me know if you would like to speak at a public event as I am trying to organise one. If not that's cool and I will do my best to represent @familyprotection. We have had this same conundrem with the lawful rebellion group. Whenever one of us were in trouble we would try to rally round but with people not able/ready to commit, the distance and inconvienience of travel left people assuming others would do it instead. Sadly that doesn't happen. Much of it was to do with funding and it would have been helpful to have a minibus to collect willing protesters on-route to whoever is in trouble. I think the only real way is to start buying land to build a community on. We are scattered everywhere and it really puts a stop on things. It just needs a multi-millionaire with a heart of gold, don't suppose you know any?
I knew this would get your juices flowing!
I am an avid believer in communies, and I will build one if I ever become a millionaire,
your names on the list =)
Cheers Dan!
I love that this topic is getting the attention it needs. The more information that comes to light and the more people that talk about it the bigger it will get. One day we will put a stop to the beast CPS.
Isn't it great! People do care, they just need a gentle kick up the butt!
Its becoming more likely with every story told, with every piece of evidence, with every support group.
We just have to convince the sheeple that the government works for us, we are the one with the true power!
STRENGTH IN NUMBER!
Another thing is to take care of your health as best you can. The "health" system is a big place where they gain their foothold. The more responsible we are for our own health, the less we need to interact with them.
The next thing I would suggest it that there is the Einstein quote about not being able to solve a problem from the same level of consciousness that created it in the first place... which leads to each of us, in some way actually beginning the doing of creating something that we do want to see in the world. We need to allow the failing corrupt system (a system that is currently screaming with desperation right now as more people are waking up to what they are up to) to fall while building a better one outside of the corporate fiction masquerading as our governments. We need to render them obsolete. Interact with them as little as possible by educating ourselves as the where they get their footholds and not giving them that.
These are some things I can think of. We need to do it wisely, and realize we may need to defend ourselves and our families in every way. The system is falling apart and the death throes of this fall is manifesting as them becoming more blatant in their aggressive attempts to seize more power. There are too many people seeing the lies they are telling in every aspect of the power structure. If people are distracted trying desperately to save their children they are going to be too busy to see the rest of what is going on. It's a multi pronged plan, and CPS is a major player in their plan because not only do they procure children for pedos, but they hit the people at a primal survival level for maximum trauma. Trauma is used to program.
That's all I've got to add to the list for the moment. :) hope it inspires someone. Lol
".. which leads to each of us, in some way actually beginning the doing of creating something that we do want to see in the world. We need to allow the failing corrupt system (a system that is currently screaming with desperation right now as more people are waking up to what they are up to) to fall while building a better one outside of the corporate fiction masquerading as our governments. We need to render them obsolete. Interact with them as little as possible by educating ourselves as the where they get their footholds and not giving them that."
yes, i agree @erinn
the idea is to give up the idea of fighting or killing or shaming or enemy and create what we DO want. as a personal supporter for home educating parents for over 10 years, i know parents need personal support locally, NOT an organisation.
on a personal note, i had my 6 month old breast-feeding child stolen by the father at the advice of the police. one week later, my father and i attended the magistrate's court, where my son was returned to me.
no apologies, no reasons, no nothing.
I'm with you!
https://steemit.com/freedom/@markwhittam/what-gives-our-government-the-right-to-take-our-children
Wow, that is a great challenge to have it around the world. I know there are so many families who are affected and need help. It is a difficult thing to find an answer to. I just wrote a post today from information I found in an article written by a lawyer. She said that it is important to find lawyers who have fought CPS in the past - not just any lawyer will do, because most expect you to comply with demands that CPS puts on you. Instead you must look for a lawyer who is willing to fight them. I can see people researching and compiling lists like this so it's available when someone needs a name of a lawyer who can and will help instead of telling you to do what they tell you...and then lets you cry on their shoulder as CPS ushers your children away.
I love this initiative as it lies at the roots of our very livelihood. Like you mentioned several times in your post we are not playing on a level playing field but understanding that is half the battle. When we realize that the odds are not in our favor in this arena we need to get creative and think outside the box.
With that being said, I think the best way to fight back is through public awareness and the spreading of information. When more people become aware of the atrocities, the sheer volume of people can have a large effect. Like @eco-alex pointed out, bringing it to social media and social influencers accounts on twitter is a great way. As more and more people become aware, the power of the group will become its biggest strength.
Yes, I agree 100%
Public awareness and spreading info is what we do best, but we definitely need a solid network of people who know how to deal with these vultures.
Imagine you had a knock at the door now! Your neighbors, who you do not get along with, have just made some false claims as revenge for not trimming your tree.
What do you do?
I want to have a system in place where people can turn to in these situations, a step by step guide or a list of people in your area with the knowledge and power to make the CPS go away and never come back to your door again.
This is possible and people do win this way.
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
Yeah you’re right. Little things and spiteful people causing in your family affair. Look forward to getting more involved with this movement, thatnks to @eco-alex for bringing my attention to this
This. Being a part of the poverty cycle myself and being a new father. I see people putting hundreds of dollars up their nose that I could be using to feed my son and pay my rent. Instead I worry about the fact I’m adding a 2nd life to this world because I barely make enough to get by. I somedays literally just eat bread cuz i penny pinch to buy clothes and invest a couple dollars when I can into crypto hoping to escape this cycle. We need to burn down this society of takers and decentralize the wealth. Thanks for your post. Been having a hard day, this made me remember I’m not the only one struggling and we need to all work together to make this world potentially closer to equal.