You can pretend all you want of being the victim of my downvotes. I NEVER downvote without cause. You've not only been constantly downvoting me but persistently upvoting @kimjungpoo (proof below). Your misplaced sense of rightousness is uncouth! That makes you a racist by providing supportive upvotes of racist memes!
I was wondering if you would leave a comment to try and justify your actions. You can trust that I have been weighing my votes carefully. Not sure I've been called 'uncouth' before :)
I have downvoted you for the same reason as most other due to disagreeing with your rewards, but the 10% vote I used would barely be noticeable to someone who makes about as much in a week as I've made in 2 years. I just felt some need to do something to ensure a better spread of rewards on Steemit. I reserve most of my voting power to support others, including those you have flagged. I think the only times I have self-voted in the last year are to counter your flags.
I'll accept that the Kim Jung Poo comments may be in bad taste, but it made me smile. How I vote has nothing to do with race and in your case has nothing to do with the content of your posts.
Your actions in mass flagging everything some people post is bullying in my eyes. My posts did not even mention you, but you took away about as much as you have given yourself on this comment. Destroying the reputation of others who just want a better Steemit is just not a nice thing to do. I would have some sympathy if I saw you helping others.
I don't expect my actions to have any affect on what you do, but I've been cheered up by the overwhelmingly positive responses I've had.
Go in peace.
The problem isn't as much how much he earns but how little he shares.
About kimjungpoo comments, I don't care if it's racist it's being used as harassment and should not be encouraged.
The goalposts keep moving on why the people hate haejin.
Actually it's really simple. He gets all of his earnings from one account. If it weren't for his partnership with the @ranchorelaxo account he would have about 1 - 5 $ on each of his posts. We are removing potential rewards as we have the tools to do so, it's built into the system to prevent this type of abuse. It's called a downvote.
He was earning 10-20 per post and getting 2000+ views before he started receiving RR upvotes. Quit lying.
You realize you can fake views pretty easily right? It's not rocket science, you just have to refresh the page. Also, do you know how to do math? Because we do. Once you minus Rancho and HJ's vote he's left with next to nothing. And yes, that's without flags.
He made 20$ a few times because of random accounts upvoting his shit, like mangos and alexis555, hell even Bernie gave him a couple upvotes before the scam started between him and rancho.
He has to downvote everything I say because he knows I'm right.
More like because you talk racist shit
I kind of expected it, but H returned to flag my post at the last moment. He couldn't cancel all the reward. Leaves him less power to flag others
Like I've said now so many umpteen times: IF you trolls back off your downvotes, my self upvotes will correlate. HOW IS THAT SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?
FYI, I had already stopped flagging you when you made that comment.
I see, just read this. @done and his posse still at it! IF they back off; my upvotes rise.
@Haejin took that away from you!!!
Because he has flagged so many accounts.
If i could ask a simple question.. They are your upvotes to do with them as you wish, (others will agree/disagree, doesnt matter. Thats how the system is set up right now)
.... But, dont you think that by upvoting someone else and spreading a bit of that to someone thats not neccessarily openly supporting you, you could reduce the hate?
Just a suggestion.
FLAG THE DONKEY @HAEJIN
I wish you MAAAAAAASSSSSSIVVVE FLAGS!!
Nobody gives a shit about your weak ass self votes, go back to fucking your goat, I mean, your wife...
That's a really good point!
Racist memes make you smile... good to know.
Haejin is Korean and Kim is from the other Korea. It could be far worse, but race should not enter into discussion
They are of the same ethnicity with an artificial border between the two countries.
Race shouldn't enter into the discussion, but apparently if they are used against an adversary it makes you smile.
I suppose that is human, but not very virtuous.
Nobody is perfect. At least I'm not flagging the world to suppress discussion.
I won't flag you
You say that like the side you follow doesnt use flagging to suppres people's comments when the truth is quite to the contrary
A while ago I asked @berniesanders if he doesnt think that his reputation bellow zero isnt a sign that his actions are unwanted here for which he destroyed my reputation in a attempt to silence me I have also been receiving threats from other following him like @dang007 and trying to tell me what posts im allowed to read!
Laughable and pitiful!
I don't like to see any threats or intimidation. People hide behind pseudonyms. It's interesting to see just how many are on each side of this discussion.
That's the most idiotic, asinine statement I've ever seen in writing!
@Haejin took that away from you!!!
Because he has flagged so many accounts.
That's not what he said, you're putting words in his mouth.
Here here!
Just give me only 1 good reason why @starjuno did downvote this post?
Why would he give to a community thats constantly attacking him with racist slander?
Users like @dang007 @berniesanders making threats to users for reading his posts?
Its like being suprised a jew wouldnt contribute to Hitlers political campaign before WW2
It's not appropriate to get racist over this. I thought the comics posted were more satirical. He does himself no favours by attacking any critics. He's trying to scare people so they don't dare to flag him. If he showed any signs of wanting to be a better member of the community he would get some sympathy.
Let's not resort to comparison to Nazis. Nobody is going to die from flagging.
But why would he want to be a better member of a group of people treating him this way?
Would you?
Comparing those beheviour to nazis pre ww2 is very accurate
Hitler got his general support thanks to telling the masses they are poor because jews hold the wealth
Haejin earns a lot so lets destroy him the'll be more for us
Isnt that whats repeated time after time by your side???
'My side' is just me, but others have a similar attitude. I've met plenty who could make more, but choose to help others. Why wouldn't I favour them over someone who rarely does that? I'm not including Bernie as I really don't know what drives him.
The Nazis were truly evil. This is mostly just about money. See Godwin's Law.
Re goodwins law:
What can I say hitler makes a good punchline and also I believe its the same social mechanism at play here
Any chance you read "atlas shrugged" by Ayn Rand?
I very much see haejin as an industrialist while his atackers believe they deserv things because they want/need them rather then working to achieve them.
@berniesanders is a nazi and he is pure evil scum.
I'll have a look.
I agree with you would be great to have haejin supporting the community but this as I said earlier is no way to achieve it.
If we'd remove people like sanders from the equation thered be hope of change
As it is I'm afraid you are seen as just another face in a ugly racist mob! ( I believe youre not but as you I only represent my own unpopular opinion)
This is not driven by race, or at least I'm assuming not for the majority. Steemit is just a little corner of the internet. It's still working out how it should work. Bernie is some random person who has some power here, so is H. If someone behaves obnoxiously then people are likely to take against them. I should just ignore H as it will take bigger players to have any effect on him, but I can't resist getting involved. I'm not jealous of him and I don't care where he comes from. I don't think he deserves the share of the rewards he gets and I want to see others who work hard get something too. Is that so bad? I apologise for any offence I may have given, but his actions are over the top and I stick by the 'bully' tag.
Plenty of people hate Bernie too, hence his very negative rep. I've no idea what race he could be and really don't care. It's what people do that matters.
I keep saying that Steemit is the wild west and this is a prime example of this. I prefer to work with people who want to build something great here and they have shown support for me. That's what matters to me.
Love...
You'd make it much easier for me to stand by my convictions if you were a racist bigot which I dont think you are.
There is a lot of right in what you are saying the problem is at this point you are on the same side as sanders who is and I believe curbing behaviour like his is the key to reaching peace.
I dont think h is a bully I think you were treated as just another face in a mob of haters I witnessed the beggining of the flag war as I said earlier h was way too busy building his position and never attacked anybody unless in retaliation.
Ive spoken with a few of your side like you who came across as decent people.
Its like a war where neither side quite remembers what they are fighting about but like in war there are always people who gain on it so want to keep it going.
Sad realy
There were peace agreements reached previously always broken by sanders and his likes and if you'd look further into it it wouldn't suprise me if you'd find him to be pulling more from the reward pool with his multiple accounts voting each others posts than h with his. But I have no way of proving this on the other hand I dont have to I have seen enough to know he is a racist bully whose guts I hate for destroying my rep (from 39 to 0 twice!)and trying to censor me and literary tell me what im allowed to read.
Ill just have to add that if h was to pull out his investment other users might get a bigger % of the pie but the pie would be that much smaller which I think is something to bear in mind as the amount poeple have locked up in steem power is connected to the size of the reward pool.
I think the place we'd like steem to become isn't realy that different we just see different ways of getting there.
Sincerly all the best.
A bit more detail to what I was saying about sanders abuse
https://steemit.com/steem/@studgriffin/the-hypocrisy-and-abuse-of-berniesanders-and-abusereports-a-detailed-analysis
If id say in court I thought it would be funny to say to my black employee
Hows it going my nigga!
I dont think that would help my case much!
Do you?
Just look at the recent trial of a bloke who taught his dog to lift its paw to the command sieg heil he did it for a joke and got senteced non the less!
HAEJIN & RANCHO LIVESTREAM
More self voting while attacking others for doing so!
Typical of you hypocrites!!
You're worried about 5 cents? When my steemworld looks like this, you'll have a bit of an argument.
5 cents is way more than your person is worth
You are failing to see that there is a bigger problem here than haejin...
Idk if the kimjongpoo memes are racist or if you are transitively racist but the way bernie operates is simply unacceptable for steem. The number of users and investment he has driven away outweighs any damage haejin may be doing by upvoting himself. And to that point- we should focus on the bigger evil here.
Bernie is spamming flags and comments on every user who interacts with haejin's content.. which is probably encouraging haejin to upvote himself and flag his enemies.
He also spam flags many others, (including myself) merely for stating opinions he doesn't like.
Haejin seems reasonable to me. If someone creates a smart plan to minimize his upvotes and adhere to a certain amount of income, I am sure he would be open to it.
And I think executing such a plan would be a lot easier if there wasn't a whale dedicated to trolling him and hundreds of other users.
Bernie is a loose cannon, but he does some good. What H does is pure greed. It's nothing to do with what the community likes. He's been offered some options, but he just carries on.
in my humble opinion, I do not think that the issue of haejin will be solved until the real problem in bernie is solved.
Bernie has done some good, though I often think it is a facade.. to hide the fact he is incredibly abusive. Look at @abusereports. For every spammer bernie flags there is a good steemian he tries to drive from the platform.
I stand by this statement. If bernie was out of the picture, I think @haejin could be worked with to limit his upvote abuse.
Absolutely. Prior to seeing your post I had posted something similar.
I got flagged purely for leaving a comment on Haejin's IBM TA; for someone like me, that makes a big difference. I am new to this platform and was shocked when I saw that.
Haejin does good work, even if it is clear he has a selfish streak. He makes plenty of money, but does not want to upvote the newer readers, as he gets little back from us.
Having said that, I vote purely on content and I will continue to upvote Haejin on that basis.
You are so right bernie just got done flagging all my content because I disagreed with him. Says it was because I was up voting my own content but he does the same thing. I choose to power down and move my investment somewhere else to earn rewards that don't get censored and stolen from me. Bernie is a huge hypocrite.
Same thing happened to me @berniesanders is a racist hypocrite who deserves a gas chamber though that would be an all to humane end for him
You do yourself no favours with such threatening language. I still won't flag you
No I agree I don't
but I use the same language as used towards me by such users
By him doing some good what do you mean?
All he does is upvote his own posts while shouting about others doing so
People like @berniesanders are the real problem!
If it wasnt @haejin at the top youd be attacking somebody else with a different excuse but for the same reason. Envy!
Haejin is not the only person abusing Steemit, but he's the most visible. I don't support all that Bernie does, but I think that reigning in some of the biggest earners is good for steemit
@Haejin is one of the big earners but he does it openly has nothing to hide about how he gets his rewards
People like sanders have multiple accounts behind which they are hidding while abusing the system with multiple self votes
Now which is worse?
I don't approve of all Bernie does. I like that steemit makes most actions transparent and we can expect to be judged on what we do. Haejin is big enough to get away with a lot as he has scared off many. If he keeps attacking then he can't expect attitudes to change.
He didnt start the attacking he didnt start the downvoting he was much too busy building his position here his actions are transparent while @berniesanders has much to hide.
You can't deny a man a right to defend himeself using the methods of his attackers.
I know its becoming a vicious circle where most dont even remember how it started.
Racist? Try fucking hilarious.
You're a turd that needs to be flushed.
Make sure you downvote all of @Haejin's scammy post!!!
I realy wish I could meet you in real life you piece of racist shit
Overall I have to agree with Haejin. I have left comments before and found that @Kimjumgpoo downvotes ALL comments left on his posts. Franklin flagging others' comments is disgusting and against the spirit of what steemit is about.
Upvoting Kimjongpoo shows a lack of respect for other users, as he affects our reputation just because of his dislike for Haejin. Also the title of his character is clearly meant to be racist as it is targeted at a Korean.
I will agree however that I have rarely seen Haejin upvote others.
HAEJIN & RANCHO LIVESTREAM
How to Spot a Communist AKA @Haejin
Haejin Has Never Showed His Face & Never Gave His Real Name!!!
Why is he hiding this info from you? Isn't he supposed to be some great crypto god?
Where is more info about him? There isn't any.
And this guy is supposed to be a professional on crypto advice?
Steemit: Fake Info
Twitter: Fake Info
YouTube: Fake Info
Bitcoin.Live: Fake Info
His Website: Fake Info
He is 100% FAKE SCAMMER!
Care to explain why you downvoted my satirical post about renaming Steemit to Haejinit? Because you say you never downvote without cause, yet you downvoted my post. Was it too honest? I want to know the reason.
You're the most powerful person on this site and your flags can be damaging, especially to someone relatively new to Steemit like myself.
@haejin
This is the internet. This is social media. You need to have thicker skin than this. If stupid cartoons that say racist $#!t are going to make you feel all butthurt, you should stay off of the internet.
It's fair to say that @haejin is like cancer to whole Steem project.
In my experience he does excactly what @steevc explained in his post.
I have seen plenty of proof where people who downvoted his post in order to adjust the value of the content which brings to Steem and got downvoted by large amounts theirself as a result. Many people don't dare to flag him again when they experienced this once.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think that his content has zero value but way overvalued in it's current state.
It seems that large stakeholders of Steem (missing @ned 's opinion on this discussion) doesn't care about content and a fair distribution of the reward pool.
Guess that @dan will have best chances in letting people leave Steem into his new Steem competitor on EOS, when people realize that the reward pool distribution system on Steem has failed because of greed...
I am worried that people will leave for a platform they consider to be fairer. Then watch the Steem price plummet. This platform has great potential and short term greed threatens that.
I'm actually waiting for that platform, there are few tries but nothing close to steem yet. But eventually, it will come.
About the subject, I don't appreciate what this haejin guy does but the problem is not himself, the system is broken and he's just making his way. Those who look like angel goes and uses bid bot or self-votes or votes their alts on 7th day...
There are many problems to make newcomers give up on steem, and if it wasn't haejin it will be the second guy who earns the most.
I've been here for 4 months and when I first come here everywhere was flooded by haejin and bernie.. It's four months of pool rape and flag wars instead of trying to build something.
And since we are playing with real money here, if you go and piss a billionare's garden, he come back and buy your whole neighbourhood.
And here is my worthless upvotes to help you cover.
There are many people trying to make something good here. The greedy ones are a distraction and eventually their influence will decrease. This is the wild west and it's up to us to build the platform we want.
This is a FORK of STEEMIT
https://wn.nr/XYHT96
No its racist pigs like @berniesanders and @dang007 that are driving people away.
A story of sucsess like @haejin is something that would attract newcomers giving them hope that they can achieve something here.
Instead they can see how the "community" treats you if you dare to achieve!
Yep, that's what I think will happen soon when there is a good alternative.
Haejin has no interest other than greed - if you would care about Steem, he would start to curate good content of other authors too.
In this picture you will see, how he uses his power in order to punish those who dare to disagree on how he abuses the system:
If it's somekind of encouragement for you: You are not alone!
One could say "Don't hate the player, hate the game!" - guess this is somehow true.
In my opinion there are 3 possible outcomes:
I don't think the last possibility will happen, that's why I'am currently thinking to sell all my stake and wait for a better platform which will evolve soon.
Lets hope something better comes along soon.
Bad apples like bernie run people off that's what ruins it.
I've had no issues with Bernie so far, but he is a loose cannon. As a prominent Steemian who seems to want respect I think haejin could behave better. He's not earning friends