RE: Now you can see the numbers.
Funny you are saying something different than others. Others are saying it will disinsentivize self voting, but you state the correct reality that this will increase self voting, which means more will be curating themselves, leaving less for Others, especially the whales.
This means those numbers shown in the capture above will probably be higher than shown for the big guys.
Then there is the downvote pool. This again only helps the big guy, because the little guy will remain just as scared to downvote as they are currently and has always been. It'll simply fund these retarded flag wars, making it even more profitable for the Oligarchy.
None of this will change a thing. Highly followed accounts will get more empty votes to feed off the higher curation rewards and the little guy will receive fewer. So, these two portions of the HF21 proposal will only increase the bad behavior they are claimed to be a fix for.
The rationales aren't rational and it all sounds like spin from the big guys, to convince their counterparts to vote this in and our opinions dont really matter.
All of our concerns are being brushed aside, even by you with ridiculous spin.
You state, " Something must be done, this isn't perfect, but it's all we got." What a load of shit and is you just trying to quiet us down.
Steemit is just modeled after the failed American Political Template and listening to this bullshit spin just proves it further.
There are always other options, period. You don't just throw new untested, irrational abstract idea's into action in real time just to see the outcome.
You do the math, show the math, experiment and test many times over before changing the code. This is how science works, but you choose politics over science, which will fail.
There are literally 30+ competitor's for Steem right now with more coming. All their TOKENS are worth less, but author's are actually earning more there than here.
All I can do is shake my head and be glad I haven't wasted much of my time here and none of my hard earned cash.... @crimsonclad
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Again, I appreciate your response, and with respect to the fact that people are rightly emotional about this topic, I'm going to point you at this comment I made so as not to write another wall of text people won't read and then comprehend. That's a clarity issue, but I also think it's a knee-jerk, gut reaction issue.
All I can ask is that people don't assume I'm saying anything.
No. There is no place at all that I state this, and just like I'm here having a dialogue with all of you (the opposite of telling you to "quiet down,") I also won't allow you to misconstrue my clear words- posted multiple times in this thread- because you're angry about the overarching situation. You have all rights to be angry and speak your opinions, but that's simply not what I stated and your insinuation that I am attempting to silence people is unacceptable to me, so hopefully if you get the chance to re-read my comments for what they say, and not what you feel they must mean that will help us at the very least (unintentionally, I'm sure) not put words in each other's mouths.
@crimsonclad, Here's your direct quote, "Feeling that the EIP is a fuck you to little guys misses out on some of behaviors the EIP could potentially encourage that we simply cannot achieve any other way,"
So, yes you did say that... The rest of my statement explaining what I see you saying is simply my take, because I cannot believe you actually believe yourself...
Oh and disagreeing is not being emotional. Please don't try to downgrade my opinion in such a egotistical manner. It's just another smokescreen. You are wrong, period...
I'm not even calling you emotional. You're looking for ways to downgrade your own opinion on my behalf. I'm here answering you completely reasonably. I'm not going to touch the egotistical bits... but please don't forget to include the second, direct quote, directly following your direct quote that you trimmed off and left out. Context does matter:
Followed up by,
Really, here's one, "Again, I appreciate your response, and with respect to the fact that people are rightly emotional about this topic,"
Here's another to another user by you, "I appreciate that you've taken time to respond, and with the greatest respect for how raw everyone is feeling,". Stating it broadly doesn't change the implication.
As for context, adding the second half makes no difference to the portion I was addressing. So, the context I highlighted is paraphrasing, " this is the only way".
Adding the second part you are saying the same thing except your implying something is better than nothing, which is ridiculous...
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Other people in this thread, including Dreemsteem, have broadly stated they're mad, and I have no issues continuing to address that because I know they are and I do respect that. I also know you feel like you're backing me into some magical corner of logic here, but instead you're basically just repeating things trying to implicate implications and making a muck of it while trying to project I'm projecting on to you.
My actual feelings, which again, I've repeated in many places, are the exact opposite of your badly implicated implication. The EIP numbers are not better than nothing. Now is not the time. They do not solve any of the problems that we need to, and even if it does go through, it won't change the effect of the distribution and 1% abuse, and the price of Steem. Any discussion that does not involve shifting our focus to real problems, instead of debating an EIP, for or against, is not useful in any way to the current real problems of Steem is and not going to get us where we need to go. So yes, you're correct in one thing: there's certainly ridiculous here.