RE: If Hitler Had Won
Really? We are going to compare numbers in order to calculate the level of attrocity? Does it make much difference if you entrap and torture 100, 10000 or 10000000? are we really doing the "numbers" game here?
Most people in political power do exactly what Hitler did. Open a history book. The only difference is that obviously not not all people become politicians. Most that do become though our of sheer statistical occurance, use their state to coercively impose their will.
"Most countries don't kill their own and other countries' inhabitants by the millions, nor are they dictatorships, so they are nothing like Nazi Germany."
Not at first but they do give you a gun and ask you to sacrifice yourself. Nn case of war they would give you a one way ticket to become a murderer. Refuse to pay taxes and you end up in prison. Refuse to follow and you are shot. The only difference with Hitler and the other fighting parties was that they didn't have any choice. Even today with small time wars much the same murders occur all around us.
"I'm one of those silly people who have actually done research on WWII atrocities using primary sources. It's always good to get the facts straight before you write something."
Facts are only good if you present them properly to an argument. What you are doing here is rather "dick parading" saying "i studied better than you therefore you are wrong". Knowledge without critical thinking is useless my friend.
You did not present any logical argument about your position. You rather strawmaned your way through.
First of all, it is intentional deaths versus ill treatment in the Japanese internment. So, still an absurd comparison.
And yes, numbers do matter, especially when talking about the intentional killing of civilians versus collateral damage. The carnage intentionally caused by the Germans, and the reasons why, is comparable maybe to what Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao and the like did, but not to the Japanese internment or the political behaviour of "mosts governments".
No, most people in political power don't do what Hitler did. That is a nonsensical statement which only shows you haven't opened any history books yourself.
I'm not saying that I studied better than you, therefore you are wrong. I'm saying your facts are wrong because you haven't studied enough. You can't do critical thinking based on myths and folklore.
Go ask the japanese if it was "ill treatment" thousands died. Others vanished for secret experiments. what? do you think you would know if Hitler has won about the Jews?
By your definitions the means of some goverments justify the end. Hitler chose a path with no respect to human life. Americans did much the same. they did the same attrocities when it came to human experimentation (you see to conveniently by-pass this fact.
Hitler just killed more people and got more rep. Same exact attrocoties were done from the U.S, the Japanese, the Russians. really, almost all leaders. I actually dare you to find one case that it is not
I actually gave you links. You haven't provided shit yet
So, you are saying the USA had the firm intention to kill all Japanese internees? Because that is what it would take to make the two comparable.
Nowhere do I say that the means justify the end (sic), or the other way around, for that matter.
Hitler didn't "choose a path with no respect for human life", he intentionally killed millions. That is a different thing.
"almost all leaders"? No, a small minority of leaders, especially when talking about the 20th century, intentionally went out there to kill millions because of race, religion or politics.
I have no links to give you; the sources and literature I use take up 6 meters of my library wall.
Dude, they dropped 2 nuclear bombs. They treated them like trash. Everyone hated the Japanese much like they hated commies. Just the shallow evidence is overwhelming.
Here is a short link to remind you are "intentionally killing"
here is some more reading to add to your research:
https://www.darkmoon.me/2015/the-untold-story-of-american-war-crimes-in-japan-part-1/