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RE: My Open Letter To Justin

in #steem5 years ago

You act as if he has 0% support, but that is not what I have seen. There are a lot of people in Steem that were excited by the TRON/Steem combo news, and there are quite a few youtube videos from people like Hilarski and Freedompoint speaking out against the actions the witnesses did.

I believe the result of a sister fork will not go the way you want it to go. The most successful people on Steem are loyalists and will stick with Steem Classic, but a lot of the people here that are not very successful at getting on trending and such will go with Justin, even if it means becoming a token on TRON. If I am right, it means that the Steem community gets divided, when we all know how disappointingly small it already is.

What about SMTs or RC delegation? I'm not sure these cool features everyone has been waiting for will ever see the light of day if there is a contentious hard fork right now.

I think its better to go the peace pipe route for the time being.

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okay i watched some Hilarski and Freedompoint videos.
im obviously a bit out of my element there
they have a lot of stake in the game.

however they seem to willfully ignore a lot of the facts that matter. both of them assume this all started with the witnesses freezing steemit stake. they both view the witnesses as greedy rich assholes that only care about self enrichment and dont represent the community. its all absurd.

this started when sun bought steemit then refused to talk to us and made constant contradictory claims about intent. freezing his accounts was not an attack or illegal. and we had no intention of leaving it frozen. they act like suns response was justified and proportional, using investor funds on exchanges to punk the chain with a devastating Sybil attack. i shouldnt have to explain why thats 1000 times worse.

they focus on the hatred spewed by our community, as if everyone should be a charismatic professional businessman. community will always have a full spectrum.

the witnesses make very little at these prices. devs hired by corporations easily make 10 times what they currently generate, and corporate devs dont have to deal with these politics.

they both want to "move forward" and think sun has value to offer. he doesnt

they blatantly ignore the extreme severity of this constant Sybil attack.

there are so many ways to pick apart their weak arguments, which has been done time and time again in the town hall meetings. the words fall of deaf ears.

thank you for pointing me in this direction, as this added perspective really makes a lot of the politics click into place for me. i guess perception really is reality sometimes.

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people like Hilarski and Freedompoint

Do these people even have stake in the network? I'll probably watch these videos later but they seem like they don't have any skin in the game.

Let me be very clear: Justin Sun is not going to invest more money into this fucking fiasco. There is no chance that his chain gets more development than the real chain with the real witnesses. He is the most famous, prolific, and charismatic scammer in the space, and people keep falling for his bullshit hook line and sinker over and over again.

SMTs are basically done. Think about the differences between Justin's fork and the sister fork. There aren't any except a couple frozen accounts. If Justin's fork finishes SMT... the sister fork gets SMT for free, and vice versa. Well, probably not vice versa, because Justin has zero devs and he isn't going to hire more.

If Justin forks the main chain that chain will get dumped to zero and abandoned within a month. I guarantee it.

The absolute best case scenario is simply to buy Justin out of his position for whatever he paid Ned (I would lowball him for half as much) and send all those coins to @null and the SPS.

I would love to be proven wrong and will be the first to admit it. I'm wrong all the time. Personally, I think 10 years down the road Justin Sun will be the laughing stock of decentralization due to his actions and will have zero power and negative reputation across all networks.

Some people might indeed find it beneficial if a lot of "usual suspects" occupying trending went elsewhere, and left this chain. I expect something like this to be what people will try to weigh in when making a decision.

I can't imagine joining some kind of a platform full of people who only post about STEEM and fight all the time. Or... wait. I think I already did.

I'm left with an uneasy feeling about a split. The previous forks that took portions of this community away have always failed, and not just failed but failed miserably.

Think back to the Ethereum DAO hack. The main chain is the one with the most support. It is very obvious from witness voting that the new sister chain will actually be the main chain.

You'll notice I didn't say which chain would be dysfunctional, now that I brought that up.

It's more fun when you're in "absolutely batshit free association mode".

When this is all over let's drop acid.

I'm wayyy ahead of you...