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RE: Vote Bots: Great tool or destroying the SteemIt community?

in #steem7 years ago

Hi @squdsi1. I guess bots dont make sense. Not only that it looks spammy as you said, or adding bots in the last two days might feel shady. I think why fighting so hard for "free" money. It costs so much time to trick these bots and people for some dollars.
From my side, and please correct me if I am wrong I go with what @theferalone said in this post: https://steemit.com/steemiteducation/@theferalone/field-guid-to-steemit-how-it-works-and-how-to-survive-your-first-30-days
Why not just investing some real money into the system, upping ones curational power, whilst generating real financial backup for the whole steemit community and also gaining credibility:
Quote @theferalone

Before I follow someone I want to know if they are here to stay, or just playing around. If someone drops $100 into the platform, it tells me they plan on sticking around for a while.

How do you think about that perspective? I am thinking strongly about investing that way (not only from the curational perspective, but also because I am convinced this platform will rocket up in 2018), yet not only steem is new to me but also crypto currencies in general, so there is still some research to be done.

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I am with you there. I went through a trial of using a few bots, just to see what they were about, and if they really helped, and what I found was that they really don't. The only ones who do make money are the bot creators...it is a business.
But I have invested over half of the SP/Steem I have, because I feel it is a good investment. And when I upvote someone, I know I have invested in the pool I am sharing.

So in the end, I have one auto-upvote from MSP-lovebot, but that is because I delegate 250.00 SP to MSP. The politics are thick though...so not sure what I will do in the future for delegating...but I know I will continue to invest a little here and there as I can.

Hello @elew. What is the MSP-lovebot, and why is it different?

I am not really sure that it is different, but the reasons are different. MSP (if you do not know) is the MinnowSupportProject. So I delegate SP to them to help out new minnows, for upvotes, for all the programs MSP has created to help others, etc. The MSP-lovebot is really just a 'thank you' bot to support the people who are supporting the project....so you see it is a circle.

I think it is good, because I don't cash out my SBD, I power it all up in order to give back more. It is nice to see support come back from the places I support.

But then, it is still a bot, so in the end I am penalized by dolphins and whales for having a bot upvote...kindof a catch 22...good to help, bad to be appreciated for the help.

Thanks for the info @elew.

Thanks @elew I think investing in SP is very smart as I said above. WOuld love to learn more about your experience with delegation and also a bit about the 'thick' politics. I have not yet delegated anything. If I do it would hopefully be to a good cause that is trying to build community.

See my response to my-permaculture above. But on to that I will add...

So thick politics, meaning hard to navigate, many conflicting views. Steemit is still a new site, and as we go through the turmoil of changes, differing opinions surface. Should people upvote their own post, one camp says no, the other says yes because they put hard work into it.
MinnowSupport is no different. Their mission is amazing, but in just a few short months they have gone from startup to literally becoming a town. I mean there are 6000 to 8000 members, which is twice the size of the town I grew up in. They have their work cut out for them...but all said they do an amazing service for the new steemit users.

I was there when it started, watched it grow, and delegate SP to help them out. I only delegate a smidgen in the big picture, but it all helps.

We will see where it all goes. I am feeling like I would prefer to support a smaller group. I think it is all personal preference though.

The thick politics are site wide, growing pains. I assume they will sort themselves out eventually. There are many amazing people here :)

@my-permaculture THanks for the link to post by @theferalone. I will read that next. I agree that the work it takes to use bots could be better used building community and engaging in the steem platform.

I also agree that buying some steem to boost yourself while also supporting the platform is very smart. I bought a bit before the last big jump, but now, at $6.00, it is quite expensive. Hoping for a temporary drop to get some more. Wonder if it will ever come!