Getting STEEM back into the TOP 10 - Making Steem More Investor Friendly

in #steem6 years ago (edited)

Yesterday, I've been part of the Steem Witness Forum., which was really great.

We covered very important topics, which resulted in me brainstorming a bit afterwards. And before I get into that, let me first give you a summary, as it matters for the context.


Steem Witness Forum Recap

Again, the forum was very valuable and I especially appreciated @elipowell's part, the new MD/CEO of Steemit Inc., who sounded very enthusiastic. I honestly think that she can provide what Steemit Inc. needs from a leadership position right now.

For example, she was very honest in regards to admitting that it was a mistake to not leverage the incredible visibility of Steemit.com in 2016, e.g. via Ads. We need people who are honest and transparent, and I believe Elizabeth Powell can do that for Steemit Inc.

Besides that, for me one of the most important topics yesterday was the question: "How do we get back into the TOP 10 and how do we get our price back to above a dollar?" And while I've given my thoughts on that, I'm much better at writing than talking, so I decided to share my thoughts about this here, in written words. (as I also brainstormed about this question a bit)


Getting STEEM back into the TOP 10

Now, there are multiple ways we can achieve this vision, and I will not get into all of them here, but I believe we should start by looking at what keeps STEEM so low, instead of building on a broken fundament.

I mean honestly, just take a look at coins such as BTC Gold & BTC Diamond, which have a higher market cap and lost way less value over the last few months than STEEM, which has tremendous value due to it's many dApps and huge community. And I believe the answer to this question is quite simple:


We need to attract and retain investors

When I'm talking about investors, I don't necessarily mean people with big money, but rather people who are interested in buying and keeping STEEM. Currently, with roughly 350$+ you can buy yourself 1000 STEM, which is pretty darn cheap and makes me nearly cry (just kidding - or am I?).

But if it's so cheap and Steem has gotten more and more use cases & d/Apps over the time, why aren't more people buying STEEM?

Well, because STEEM (the currency) is very investor unfriendly.


Currently: Userbase first - Investors last

Every person who buys into STEEM, should know that their investment loses roughly 8% every year ( which is reduced by 0.5% per year), which might not sound much - but would you simply throw away 80k of your 1M investment? I don't think so.

Now, the way to go against this inflation is to:

  • A.) power it up into Steempower, so it's only a 7% loss every year (-0.5% per year) and
  • B.) self-vote/ sell-votes / delegate Steempower away for a profit ( which is not officially supported and very much in the grey zone)
  • C.) Curation (but honestly: do you think people with big money have time to wait 10 minutes to vote on a post?)

Also, all of those options require the stake to be powered up (which is a good thing, as it reduces liquidity and sell-pressure), but it also keeps investors away.

And since the biggest part of earning with Steempower is in the grey-zone and is not actively promoted or supported, there is no way for investors to learn about STEEM as an investor-friendly coin (which actually is one of the less riskiest on the crypto market, due to the powerup time)

You would need to have huge faith in STEEM. But can we honestly expect people to have faith in a currency, where people are encouraged to dump their stake?

Make posts, get STEEM, power down, sell it. Repeat.


We need a change: Investor first - Userbase second

Steem is a big game. People should be encouraged to buy into the currency (whales) and keep it, so they have huge advantages and the small players (minnows) need to work as much as possible to get something from the whales and keep it so they gain also advantages.

But that's not how the current system works. With the inception of bid-bots & delegations, you need a few hundred STEEM and you can get nearly everything that in the past only big players could do.

And since big players are automatically losing money, without the currency having a boost - it's a losing game.

However, I'm still here, with way too much Steempower, than I probably should have. And I'm powering up more every day since I'm not selling anything. Maybe I'm crazy - maybe I'm stupid - maybe I'm a genius. I don't know. But what I do know is that Steem has a huge potential.

But outside people don't know this and the risk of a guaranteed loss due to inflation is usually not worth the risk.

Now, to change this and to get STEEM back into the top 10, we have to attract way more investors.

  • We have to show them: invest in STEEM because it's lucrative.
  • And not: invest in STEEM and support people all around the world

Please don't get me wrong, this can be a very nice supplemental offering, but it shouldn't be the MVP to hook people for investing in STEEM.


How can we change this?

Okay, but how do we fix this?

Well, first off - feel free to think about this question and let me know in the comments below. Two and more brains are better than one. Usually.

Now, in my opinion, we should change the system to bring people into STEEM to power it up and keep it as long as possible and give huge disincentives to selling.

For example: I personally am keeping all of my STEEM as Steempower and powering everything up, because regardless of the price-fall, 1 STEEM is still 1 STEEM. If I have 50k STEEM I might make 50 STEEM (very rough calculation) per day passively via vote-selling, curation & co. And if I have 100k STEEM, I probably will make double of that. And I can only do all of this if my STEEM is powered up.

However, even without power down, these options (vote-selling & co.) aren't anywhere visible for outsiders, for example on Steem.com. Everything there is about communities, the social side and other fluffy things (of course also a few data points). I mean, I think that's also very important, but people who are expected to invest cold-hard cash into STEEM, have to see their ROI out of this investment.

So, what we could do, for example, is the following:

Before, you read further, please keep in mind that those are just crazy ideas, that would change STEEM towards an investor friendly cryptocurrency and change the Status Quo. I'm very much open for discussions and constructive criticism and I don't believe that these ideas are already polished enough for implementation.


1.) Change the inflation

We could do something along the lines of:

  • 30+% for vested stakeholders
  • 20-50% for voting to distribute the currency
  • 10% for witnesses/block-producers

Whether the number is 70%, 60%, 50% or 40% (it could even be dynamic based on the stakeholder) those are all just numbers. What I'm trying to focus here is that this would show the focus on investors - those who want to keep their stake in STEEM in powered up status.

Also, before you're just arguing that this will massively reduce the author rewards, I understand - but what is more:

75% of 5$ or 20% of 20$?

2.) Change the inflation revenue model

Currently, the inflation is directly added towards the vesting-shares, which nobody is actually tracking. What I'd like to see is a way similar to how NEO is distributing their GAS (https://neotogas.com), where people actually have to claim it. So we could have a similar claim-system as we currently have with other rewards.

Imagine the videos popping up on youtube where people show how much they made with their Steempower. And I wouldn't even mind creating a website similar to the above for STEEM.

3.) Disincentivize Powerdown

On top of the two changes before, we could also reduce the amount of passively generated STEEM/Steempower (which has to be claimed), if the account is currently powering down - similar how the vote-value is reduced in a power down due to the voting-mana.

That way, people will try to keep their STEEM powered up as long as possible.

4.) Promote STEEM as the blockchain for SMTs, where you'll get paid simply for hodling

Last but not least, once all other steps are integrated, we could leverage our huge community to promote STEEM as the perfect blockchain for every investor.

In addition with tools to showcase this, we would be able to push the price of STEEM higher, due to more people interested in buying STEEM.


All right, this post got very long, very quickly, so let me write a quick outro statement:

I want to repeat that these are simply ideas (probably very radical), but I believe we need to be willing to re-think everything, since I don't want STEEM to drop even further than TOP 50, instead I want it to get back into the TOP 10.

There are a lot more dynamic things as in better downvotes, etc. that are also going to play a big role. But that's not part of this post.

Please let me know your thoughts in the comments below!

All the best,
Wolf


Do you believe that my work is valuable for Steem? Then please vote for me as witness.

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I think that whatever we do, we can't attract more money than bitcoin gold and bitcoin diamond. Some investors are very bright, but more than 90% of them are always wrong in their investments. I am not only talking about crypto, even in the stock market.

There is only one warren buffet. There are millions of idiots. No matter what we do, you can't convince everyone to invest. It's all luck.

However, what you can do is really improve your product, so that it becomes really useful. Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Diamond and Doge coin will die. They might rank up high on coinmarketcap, but they will die eventually.

The game is not about attracting investment. It's about building the best blockchain. There is a saying, "luck is when preparation meets opportunity".

What we should do is prepare, prepare and prepare. Hopefully one day, a steem dapp will go super viral, and there you go, we're in top 10 forever.

If we're not prepared, there is no point in shilling steem, because the opportunity will come and we won't be ready for it. It's true that we are much better than some other cryptos, but I think we still have a long road ahead in terms of development. Once we're ready, then it becomes time for aggressive marketing to investors.

Shitcoins beat us in the short term because of stupidity and randomness. But in the longterm we can only win.

Edit - For example, 2017 was a great opportunity. Huge amounts of users came to the Steem ecosystem, but most of them left because we are not ready yet. If we had communities, SMTs, better and self-sustained dapps that make profits, we would have retained a much greater amount of people. The growth in the number of users, in the number of wallets, is what will get the price higher.

I think this is the right answer. I know we all hate being here, and you want to do something active to change the current situation, but I don't think the answer is a drastic overhaul of the system. I think the unfortunate reality is that the entire crypto market is depressed right now and no matter what we do it won't have a HUGE impact on the price, but this is only temporary.

The prices will eventually go back up and when that happens we should be prepared. There are glaring things still wrong with the user experience throughout Steem. Account creation is still too hard even though it's getting easier, Steem Ninja being integrated into the front page of Steemit would be a great step forward. Professionally done video tutorials explaining the system, and easily accessible from multiple frontends especially Steemit since it's the most used. And obviously the hugest value adds would be communities and SMT's.

We just need to use this time to create value and position ourselves to be able to go viral the next time things turn around.

Not to say I'm saying we do nothing to make Steem more investor friendly, one thing I think would be a good idea that's not in that grey area you were speaking of would be more in depth curation and autovoting tools. Steemauto + Steemworld are nice, but what if we had something that provided analytics on averages of what people make per post, so that you could at a glance see how much you could potentially earn for supporting one author or another. Taking that a step further, if this app is already tracking people's earnings, you could also have presets like "Highest earners overall, arts, Steem, Music, etc" So if you want to automatically curate one of those areas the app can just do the work for you in figuring out who to vote for. I know that's super complicated, but since we're just spitballing here...

with highest earners auto curate you continue rewarding the steemit trending page. not sure did something changed there but i know what i thought about it months ago.
it could be useful for people that don't want to make content, but it would kill new creators.

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Yea I immediately thought of how to exploit it after I posted this. It would just further incentivize people to buy votes and would make that even more profitable. Scratch that, on to the next idea 🤔

😁 well there will always be someone trying go game it

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For example, 2017 was a great opportunity. Huge amounts of users came to the Steem ecosystem, but most of them left because we are not ready yet. If we had communities, SMTs, better and self-sustained dapps that make profits, we would have retained a much greater amount of people. The growth in the number of users, in the number of wallets, is what will get the price higher.

I think that sums it up pretty good. Steem already had a lot of eyeballs, but many were not satisfied with the result, so they left. We need to change that.

I really like the #2 idea! Seems simple and maybe not that hard to implement for the devs?

Also - what do you think about creating new steem interface - a one that actually focuses on the social part? Steemit seems like a prototype to show that the blockchain interface is working but it's missing all the useful features.

I wish it would be possible to find a js dev that:

  • would be skilled
  • would have free time

Those two seems contrarty :D So far I was unable to find anyone that would like to fork steemit and make a better version of it. I even bought a html template for it but still no dev :(
http://www.wpkixx.com/html/winku-dark/

Edit: of course busy, steempeak and steevie exist but those two also just focus on displaying the posts. What about things like groups (something like subreddits with creator/moderators) or a "twitter" part where you can just post quick messages. Those can be added as comments so they don't clutter your blog page. There are many things like this missing.

Three ideas: (1) reduce inflation a bit with a hard fork (2) maybe remove SBD (stop printing new SBD) since it makes Steem more unstable and too complicated to deal with two currencies (3) add an investor (hodler) section on steem.com with information about the interest rate when staking steem and most importantly also add links to wallets and how to store, transfer and stake Steem.

(1) reduce inflation a bit with a hard fork

Could be an option. But I would argue that the second option could be used actively to promote it as positive attribute of STEEM, as it rewards stakeholders. (One of the reasons I would invest in NEO is due to GAS)

(2) maybe remove SBD (stop printing new SBD) since it makes Steem more unstable and too complicated to deal with two currencies

Hm, I think the biggest problem with SBD is currently the added inflation, which is actually huge.

(3) add an investor (hodler) section on steem.com with information about the interest rate when staking steem and most importantly also add links to wallets and how to store, transfer and stake Steem.

Yes! This should be added regardless! Could even be a seperate website.

I have read this post thrice now, to make sure I have created a picture in my head with no holes.
I agree with you mostly, and disagree with just 1 thing you mentioned

deinventivize powerdown

I dont disagree per se, but I do believe there ccould be a better model to discourage powerdown

But that's not what I'm here to talk about. I hope more people join in on this and leave their feedback. I might have to read this a couple times more and brainstorm for like 5 days before I can give a solid feedback and show my standpoint; whereas someone else could do the same in 10 minutes of reading this.
For now, to me, it seems like you have got an unsolved Rubiks cube in your hands, with a little bit of tweaking from each side and we will have a beautiful comepleted piece.

I hope more people join in on this and leave their feedback. I might have to read this a couple times more and brainstorm for like 5 days before I can give a solid feedback and show my standpoint; whereas someone else could do the same in 10 minutes of reading this.

No problem! And I hope that many people chip in their opinions.

I dont disagree per se, but I do believe there ccould be a better model to discourage powerdown

Would be very interested to hear the thoughts, once you've brainstormed about it :)

Good thoughts, as ever.
Steem is a unique platform for gaining a presence and traffic.
It does need to keep progressing and rethinking.
Resteemed!

That post is fine but i have some disadvantages and just a bit point of view . At first we are decentralized community that steemit company and freelancers are working on it . Huge investors are looking for free of threats platform whey they can earn money . All in all we have to take care for our main representatives which is steemit company , or other network of developers who are obligated to develop steem blockchain .
Information which says that steemit company layoff big part of their team
is not a good advertisement for any investment here . Steemit company is obligated to take care for our posts and they have to pay for it . When we take some costs for ourselves we will help them a lot . But how we can do it ? I think that the platform is insolvent , the sytuation is no clear and investors won't come . The best example is ads in their front end . They don't have any ideas to improve their position .
My ideas to change it :

  • Let steemit allow to get donated from us . That is the eaziest way .
  • One harder is to release their own products for us users . But all in all what it schould be ? I think that it could be licention for using for example javascripts in article by adding a new file , templates or sth else . to improve
    visuality of posts .
  • The last my idea is ... let steemit company leave take care for their front end and try to decrese their upkeep as low as it is posible .

Thanks for reading it and I m so sorry for my poor vocabulary and gramathic .

It's worth remembering that there isn't a hard line between content creators and investors. Many people here do both.

Removing sell pressure on the market means making sure the new steem that is created from the inflation doesn't end up with people who dump it on the market.

Fighting spam posts that offer little value to the community while earning rewards and selling that on the market should be a priority. Regardless of the size of the spammers.

I agree with you that HODLERS of STEEM should get a bigger share of the inflation as in the long term that means more steem is staked and therefore there is less sell pressure.

Interesting discussion!

Removing sell pressure on the market means making sure the new steem that is created from the inflation doesn't end up with people who dump it on the market.

Exactly. Which means, we need to incentivize people as much as possible to keep their Steem staked.

Fighting spam posts that offer little value to the community while earning rewards and selling that on the market should be a priority. Regardless of the size of the spammers.

Yes, that's why we need better downvotes. Otherwise it economically unfair for the individuals who fight spam.


Appreciate your answer!

In my opinion a important aspect is "promoted posts". Right now, to promote a post, you need to "burn" Steem. But what if people could "burn" RC to promote their posts (just like the RC burn to create free accounts), that would be an incentive to power up!! And that would create a competition for vote selling and buying.

Also, maybe give a bit more of visibility for promoted posts, like, show one promoted post of that tag every 10 posts.

Those two measures would for sure make Steem interesting for holders...

Great post. But I don't know if that would really be the way. Steem brings a hybrid form of passive and active feedback. my returns here are far greater than other passive rents like Neo, KCS. My perspective is first to control the bad investors, who take away much of the platform by doing accounts, maintaining centralized operation between these accounts. That's the hard part. Another is the question of having tools that make it easier to build dapps without programming, or few as possible. We have a deficit of programmers, especially in countries like mine. We are not profitable to develop activities elsewhere with our returm here, os even another crypto. And lastly the market is all down, it lacks investors as a whole. I believe that as long as we do not foster social functioning Here, we do not grow. We have a lot of faith to invest here, as in cryptos, not for the idea, but for other ways of investing. We has a large and strong community, but totally disjointed, one in each direction. Maybe the governance model will help. I personally believe that capital is a consequence of the social and not the other way around. When need more decentralize, even in tecnology, and offer to the common social, forms of use, invest and build in communities of different countries and cultures, more return on capital will be. Thanks for the post and reflection!

How about making it more user friendly first?

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That's the task of frontends (like Steemit, Steempeak, Partiko & co.) not Steem.

I see, they say they're just frontend and it's not up to them. Who decides about Trending posts or about the HTML editor, or the way photos are uploaded? Who decides that we have all these different kinds of Powers and coins that confuse users?

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Hello !! the million dollar question (-: