SteemTorch - WTF?!
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5 years ago in #steemtorch by rafalski (66)
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SteemTorch - WTF?!
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A truly inspired work of art =)
Thank you. <3
Where is my tin foil hat? :(
It is the best I could do man.. D:
He sold it after you've died. For recycling, you know.
this is reward pool rape, how can we get conde nast to buy steemit with content they cant censor aggrandized Male Homoerotic Hentai like that?
I've never seen anything better
this is reward pool rape
What is wrong with you?
I edited that comment , i dont know why it was changed back to my original edit?
Im Deeply sorry. care to show me your blockchain skills and tell me what my original post said? Are you able to show off your skills and teach us how to even do that? I heard Dan Larimer also left some secret nuggets in an old edited post of his ;)
I am sorry I didnt edit my comment when I thoughT i did @nealmcspadden I really do have Tourettes and wanted to express it , but i DID edit the comment, and I was getting "transaction errors" I even posted about it somewhere, I guess I walked out of the room and forgot to finish the edit. The attempts are there im not making it up i did try to edit that first comment , i didnt intend to leave it up longer than a few mins. to prove a point , i was upset when i saw it hadnt been edited and I remember, I was getting an error. I got upset because I wasnt able to edit my own racist comment due to maybe... rate limiting?
I wrote a post about it
accept this 0.1 STEEM token as a token of my apology
I have over reacted because in early internet time we always have been flooded with these irritating chain messages. This chain also included money. It looks like some ponzi scheme but no by asking others to defraud but wasting own money, but still.
In theory, when you upvote, you dont want anything in return.
Hi @rafalski!
Sorry that Steem Torch experiment caused you some frustration. That was not its intent. It is a little fun social experiment to show the power of steem wallet.
When I first sent out the Steem Torch it was with purpose to show how fast and reliable Steem blockchain is in transferring funds. Steem Torch travelled around the world, users from all continents got to send to each other with zero fees. That is one of the great features of Steem. As you said with blockchain there is no need to trust centralized entities, money transfers can be done peer to peer more securely and efficiently. Steem is more than capable of that. That is the essence of the experiment.
Of course social layer adds the trust in people, who on Steem are awesome. Steem Torch passed through users who are whales, orcas, dolphins, minnows, and even users with 15 sp. That just shows how trustworthy and awesome community we have. It is something we can be proud about.
The experiment has been going on for 11 months without any broken trust. Hopefully it will end successfully when it reaches the final count and the the funds will be donated for some good cause by the final count user.
Once again apologies that it bothered you. Just wanted to explain the original intentions. Clearly, you are invested in Steem and have projects going on and believe in the potential of Steem. Transfer of value in Steem is one of its great features. The experiment just demonstrates that.
No scams, no ill intentions here. Quite the opposite. Thank you for not ending it.
I'm sitting here flabbergasted by the logic presented in this post. It really makes very little sense to me.
I'm pretty sure there are a few Steemian's following the torch who would feel honored to receive it and pass it along, yet some are actually offended to receive it? My mind is blown..
PS. I'm gonna try a little experiment here. I became motivated after receiving some ENGAGE tokens from @joshman, so I decided to acquire the required amount for distribution. So, gonna try it out right now, you're my fist :)
!ENGAGE 50
PEOPLE ARE PASSING A MONETIZED MEMO TO EACH OTHER OUT OF GOOD WILL?!
OH THE HUMANITY!!!
YOU SENT ME STEEM AND EXPECT ME TO SEND IT ON TO SOMEONE ELSE?!
I'M BEING OPPRESSED!!!!!!
😂
!ENGAGE 50
@joshman you have received
50 ENGAGEfrom @futuremind!View and trade the tokens on Steem Engine.
Thank you @futuremind!
@geekgirl you have received
50 ENGAGEfrom @futuremind!View and trade the tokens on Steem Engine.
Trust is another point. I understand @rafalski's lack of desire to participate. Maybe the torch will go out when someone cashes or burns it.
I would power up the torch to counter Justin's witnesses.
I was actually auto-upvoting your posts to support your https://steemweb.pl project. Since there is no contract, it's completely reliant on trust, but you're making it very clear that you're not believing in trust. So, should I stop my autovotes and unvote this post?
Exactly.
id like to give you a sentiment token for "Aggrandizement" or "Momentary Power Play" as @whatsup calls it
Hell.. Send it to Steem-Roller.com and double it on the dice, keep half of it and send the rest to wherever you want.. Profit. :D
lol, I mean personally I don't think you should do that but whatever!
Taking the STEEM Torch for yourself would be a dick move.. But it is yours to do what you want with it. Interested to see what you do.
It is not the point, I don't want to keep it at all.
Send it here then man. I'll send it to someone who will pass it on. Not a big deal.
You must be really fun at parties huh?
I recieved money and I'm soooo mad!!!
i read that in rick's voice
:)
Every person who had it, enjoyed the opportunity to steal it, burn it or pass it on.
I don't think it was about trust at all it was about a voluntary participation in a community event.
I can see your point, if you send it back where it came from, no big deal, if you send it to null you've made a decision for everyone and some are likely to have feelings about it.
Feels like a momentary power play perhaps not worthy of the lash back, but that depends on how strongly you feel about your point.
Excuse me but what is Life but not a series of "Momentary power plays" What the fuck is every steem post but a momentary power play? Trump America Twitter its all just 15 mins of fame in a smart contract now pay your fucking immutable smart taxes and shut up lol democratic primaries are on
anyway im enjoying your twitter and thats how i found this
Oh and also didnt you know likwid was downvoting people for not downvoting people?
That is what I don't like about it too.
Sounds like you are a control freak. Any way, best of luck
No, just cyber security freak.
How does that explain this drama queen episode where you considered keeping it? You were never at risk.
LOL WAIT CYBER SECURITY RISK WOT?
not security just governance come on man
You don't like the freedom to choose what to do in a situation?
Weird flex, but ok. :D
How you can enjoy opportunity to steal?
Easily.. Is a simple test of ones character really.
You either steal it, or you don't. * shrugs *
Anytime one can prove themselves to be a bit better than what most expect of them I find it thrilling. Perhaps I am strange though.. Tis up to you man. :D
How do you feel when u send it to the person who then steal it?
I mean, it fucking sucks for the people who enjoy watching the thing get passed around, but at the end of the day the probability of someone embezzling it isn't zero.. So eventually it will happen.
Not really going to be surprised when someone takes the STEEM or burns it.. Am interested to see who the person is who does this though.
Personally find it amusing to see how people react when sent the STEEM. Most just add some and pass it on to other people.
There is also a meta level in this game. Usually the torch is passed to a friend and somebody, where it is not expected that the money gets lost. The whole community is watching the torch pass. You really make a valid point about trust and extra rules I agree with. Anyone who puts money into this topples up the value, has to expect to lose the money in the long run. It is destined to fail in the long run because Murphy´s law. But maybe the social interaction we all had on Steem frontends was worth more than 1200 steem, the more value, the more suspence, more talk about the torch. If the money gets lost, nothing will happen on blockchain protocol level, it will just trigger a social whale witchhunt onto the untrustworthy account. But I dont want to bother you with What-if Scenario I am sure you will either return it sender or pass on to somebody you expect he will not rob the community. Cheers !
.... but
NFTs....... N F T orch?
That is the point, I don't want to keep it but I could, right? There is plenty of scam in crypto world and I'm disgusted in such sending money to people that creates even more "area" for scams.
So are you gonna be the guy that pulls the scam then, or you gonna pass it on? lmao
I've got a bet on what happens and am awaiting the outcome. :D
Yup, but its social interaction that counts here not the money. And please dont let klye or some other known troll trigger you into the wrong decision @rafalski. Thank you I like math and probabilistic oriented problems too, thats why i can understand your point very well.
^ elgeko owes me 10 STEEM if you embezzle the STEEM.
I owe him 10 STEEM if you send it to someone else.
Do what you want rafalski. Either way I find this entertaining. :D
I could send it to my trusted friend deepcrypto8..
Do it! :D
Shhhhhh.. I don't think rafalski knows I'm STEEM satan yet.. :D
Fuck sake. Keep it or don't but don't be a fucking crybaby about it
Being made to participate in an action, when not asked to participate, (in anything!) is not an immature response.
(it's coercion, one way or another)
It's about the principle, not the money.
hello again, btw! lol
What's so confusing? It is just a bit of community fun. You don't have to send a greater amount, so it's not like it matters to you.
The only responsibility was on the person sending it to you to have some idea that you would 1. Find it funny and not bothersome and 2. Send it on to someone else.
Your comment about the point of crypto being to not have to trust anyone also makes no sense as it relates to the protocol and ownership of your own wallet and funds, not to what people and communities do with their money or resources.
I disagree. Such behavour develops more scamish vulnerability of the person. One day it is "I will send you sth, send it further, it's a nice game" and another day it is "Lend me some money, I will send it back later".
From me - big NO NO NO.
Yet you're fine with delegated proof of stake? Isn't that trust in 20 people? So, which is it?
But, you make a fair point. There was no agreement prior to the transfer. Personally, I wouldn't hold it against you if you kept it or did whatever.
I don't want to hold it. I don't need it.
Then either return it to the person who sent it to you, pass it to whoever else seems to care, or send it to @null for fun and as something that is actually good for STEEM
'Consent' is a wonderful word.
So is 'gushing'.... but that's not relevant right now.